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In 2005, Etienne Davignon, Chairman of the Steering Committee Bilderberg Group, discussed accusations of the group striving for a one-world government with the BBC: "It is unavoidable and it doesn't matter. There will always be people who believe in conspiracies but things happen in a much more incoherent fashion... When people say this is a secret government of the world I say that if we were a secret government of the world we should be bloody ashamed of ourselves."

There is no shadow government in the USA and
2 or more people are never planning anything in secret that is devious and evil and would hurt the American citizens. Our government is honest and true and you can rest assured that there is no need for the American people to be able to know what is in a bill before it is passed. You can trust that everything they pass is good for you. Really! Be at peace and go about your life. The government has got your back. (No pun intended).

Now please, enough with the conspiracy talk.
 
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There is no shadow government in the USA and
2 or more people are never planning anything in secret that is devious and evil and would hurt the American citizens. Our government is honest and true and you can rest assured that there is no need for the American people to be able to know what is in a bill before it is passed. You can trust that everything they pass is good for you. Really! Be at peace and go about your life. The government has got your back. (No pun intended).

Now please, enough with the conspiracy talk.

Does this come under Poe's law or does it need a smiley? ;)


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There is no shadow government in the USA and
2 or more people are never planning anything in secret that is devious and evil and would hurt the American citizens. Our government is honest and true and you can rest assured that there is no need for the American people to be able to know what is in a bill before it is passed. You can trust that everything they pass is good for you. Really! Be at peace and go about your life. The government has got your back. (No pun intended).

Now please, enough with the conspiracy talk.
I see you are a Christian, so let me respond in this context.
The Bible tells us that the governments were put in place for the good of people.
However, we know that each level of government or organization has potential for corruption.

Is the purpose of CIA to destroy the U.S.? Of course not.
There are many decent people working at CIA, FBI (and even "KGB" :)) and their goal to promote the well-being and security for their respective countries.

There are also spies, and some at high levels could even betray their own country for their own reasons.
However, not everything that seems nefarious necessarily is. :)
This is important to understand.

If, for example, it can be clearly shown that 9/11 has a lot of elements of the internal cooperation, it does not mean Bush and the others want to go to Iraq and steal oil.

It probably means building had to be brought down to prevent bigger issues.
Decisions like that are made during wars all the time.

And yes, some who were privileged to this info also made money on it - these are often (not always, but often) are the corrupt elements.

There is a grand design which is not necessarily nefarious. And there are also the ones who want to make money any way they can on this information, elements like mafias and other groups.

Our cops, firemen, FBI, CIA, NSA (and whatever else we have) consist mostly of decent patriots of this country.
However, there are pockets of corruption, treason, and betrayal that often result in conspiracies.

Thanks, :)
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Our government is honest and true

As honest and true as Pinocchio telling the truth. Our government is filled with lies and deceit it's not even funny. I wouldn't trust our government to even mow my yard.

You know how to tell when someone in our government is telling a lie? When they open their mouths.
 
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I don't get out much; into conspiracy/deep web sites; have studiously stayed away from those over the years; but am surprised at the level people believe in this stuff and how far it goes up the corporate ladder, so to speak, here at CF.

I no more believe that anyone in the Bush administration had anything to do with 9/11 then the Roosevelt administration had in allowing the 12/7 attack to happen. Both administrations were blind-sided by having their attentions distracted by civilian concerns; too numerous to state or even imagine for those of us out of the government; all the way from helping our allies, jobs, and drought on the one hand; to having no school kid left behind, on the other--Bush ran on an education platform--if any can remember those days.
 
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As honest and true as Pinocchio telling the truth. Our government is filled with lies and deceit it's not even funny. I wouldn't trust our government to even mow my yard.

You know how to tell when someone in our government is telling a lie? When they open their mouths.
My point exactly.

Conspiracy theories are only theories till proven fact and many have been proven fact and yet you still have people, who knows maybe they are government operatives, but regardless you still have people that marginalize others that are rightfully suspicious of the government. Sure, not all Federal employees are evil, I don't think there was anyone even saying that. But to jettison critical thinking skills and a healthy suspicion in some events that have taken place is just foolishness.

Notice it is usually the establishment media that runs the interference and derides individuals who suggest that something may have been a conspiracy. It is the below conspiracies that turned out to be fact that cause people to be wary of the government.


I find the people who say there are NEVER any conspiracies just as ridiculous as the people who think everything is a conspiracy.

But, let's be clear, evil acts ARE intentionally engineered and are not just an "accident of history".
 
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My point exactly.

Conspiracy theories are only theories till proven fact and many have been proven fact and yet you still have people, who knows maybe they are government operatives, but regardless you still have people that marginalize others that are rightfully suspicious of the government. Sure, not all Federal employees are evil, I don't think there was anyone even saying that. But to jettison critical thinking skills and a healthy suspicion in some events that have taken place is just foolishness.

Notice it is usually the establishment media that runs the interference and derides individuals who suggest that something may have been a conspiracy. It is the below conspiracies that turned out to be fact that cause people to be wary of the government.


I find the people who say there are NEVER any conspiracies just as ridiculous as the people who think everything is a conspiracy.

But, let's be clear, evil acts ARE intentionally engineered and are not just an "accident of history".
Of course there are operatives here who deny specific conspiracies. :)

And some folks are not operatives, they are just overly convinced by a company they keep.
Sometimes I tell them ... at least ask them to pay you for it.

Of course there are conspiracies.

And I am NOT saying that every conspiracy theory is a productive exercise of sanity. :)
 
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Of course there are operatives here who deny specific conspiracies. :)

And some folks are not operatives, they are just overly convinced by a company they keep.
Sometimes I tell them ... at least ask them to pay you for it.

Of course there are conspiracies.

And I am NOT saying that every conspiracy theory is a productive exercise of sanity. :)

Agreed. And denying ALL conspiracy theories is not a sign of sanity, either.
 
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Dept. of Homeland Security Forced to Release List of Keywords Used to Monitor Social Networking Sites
The list was posted by the Electronic Privacy Information Center who filed a request under the Freedom of Information Act, before suing to obtain the release of the documents. The documents were part of the department’s 2011 ’Analyst’s Desktop Binder‘ used by workers at their National Operations Center which instructs workers to identify ‘media reports that reflect adversely on DHS and response activities’.

The information sheds new light on how government analysts are instructed to patrol the internet searching for domestic and external threats. The Daily Mail’s article noted the Electronic Privacy Information Center wrote a letter to the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Counter-terrorism and Intelligence, describing it’s choice of words as ‘broad, vague and ambiguous’.

What wasn’t disclosed is how the agency actually gains access to the various search engines and social networks to monitor the specified keywords. My guess is the DHS has a “special arrangement” with companies like Google GOOG +0.38%, Facebook FB +1.15%, Microsoft MSFT +0.00%, Yahoo and Twitter to gain secure direct API access. This type of access would allow it to use distributed cloud technologies to monitor the daily flow of social media and search activity in something close to real time.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/reuvenc...ords-used-to-monitor-social-networking-sites/
 
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Ok lets look at this objectively.
Moderators talk to each other behind the scenes of posters. could they be conspiring if one of them is a Judas and betrays another poster for maybe coming a bit TOO close to the truth that they might only be in it for the money?

Are moderators paid to be moderators? who knows? Or they could be investors in this forum, and might even NOT be christians has anyone maybe thought that could be true, like they could be professed christians but not acutally believe and by their actions go AGAINST God's word?

If thats not enough to make you paranoid, consider this. The amount of times I've been kind of warned or banned or what have you its because someone from a particular denom I will not name, that is overtly the most visible and involved in states and govt, doesn't like when I point out scriptures or history showing that they are operating unbiblically.
 
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