Why is America not in Bible Prophecy?

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The 144000 of the children of Israel will be the first believers of the tribulation .... and these will take the gospel of the kingdom first to Israel, and then to the nations during the tribulation period [Revelation 7:1-8; 14:1-7] .... they will be sealed for protection just before the judgments begin to fall upon the earth

Here is the immortal church in heaven [Revelation 4:4; 5:1-10; 7:9-17]

And yes, these are not the "church" of today .... the church will be made immortal just before the 70th week begins
 
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"What I would like for you to do is,tell me why it's false!!"


I already have .... it is a total ruse .... no truth to it

Armstrong was a false prophet and there is no Biblical support for BI .... none .... 0

http://www.bible.ca/pre-british-israelism-herbert-armstrong.htm

The theory has gathered lots of baggage but the basis of it is sound. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming that the WASP's of the world are indeed the descendants of Israel.
 
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Look at what was said at the end of the reading out of Jeremiah's prophecy of
chapters 50-51. Where were the words spoken against? How many places?
one - this place - all the words
Babylon on the Euphrates River


Jeremiah's prophecy against Babylon [Jeremiah 50 & 51] was thrown into the Euphrates at Babylon.

Now here is an interesting irony of history.

God's anointed king, Cyrus, dried up the Euphrates at Babylon so his troops could secretly invade
and conquer the city by going under Babylon's great wall.... this symbolically released Jeremiah's
prophecy for a partial fulfillment... the final fulfillment is at the end of the age... which is why the
end time evil empire is also called Babylon... and Rev 19:11... the holy warrior on the white horse...
is historical imagery of Cyrus. I've posted about this historical imagery here before... but if any one
wants me to repost it... let me know.


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America is the only nation in history that fulfills the birthright promise given to Manasseh.


God divorced the Northern Kingdom tribes because they were unfaithful harlots...
so the harlot of Babylon imagery still fits.

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The theory has gathered lots of baggage but the basis of it is sound. The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming that the WASP's of the world are indeed the descendants of Israel.


The only thing I like about the EU is their circle [crown] of 12 stars flag... very symbolic.

The Confederate Southern Cross flag is also quite symbolic... 12 stars for the 12 tribes...
and a center star for Jesus Christ, their chief cornerstone. If one held up the flag by
the center star... the four rows of three stars would form a pyramid with the center
star... Jesus Christ... as the capstone.


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The only thing I like about the EU is their circle [crown] of 12 stars flag... very symbolic.

The Confederate Southern Cross flag is also quite symbolic... 12 stars for the 12 tribes...
and a center star for Jesus Christ, their chief cornerstone. If one held up the flag by
the center star... the four rows of three stars would form a pyramid with the center
star... Jesus Christ... as the capstone.


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Interesting.
 
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Interesting.


Here's something else interesting... the new flag of New Russia Confederation [eastern Ukriane]
is exactly like the Confederate Southern Cross [Cross of St Andrew]... but without the stars.
So there is a symbolic connection between the current "civil war" in Ukraine... and the US
civil war era Confederate flag which is now causing conflict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya_(confederation)


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The first century historian, Josephus, tells us what happened to Edom.

In the 2nd century BC, Edom lost a war against Israel... then the Prince/High Priest
of Israel did something Israel had never done before... he forced the "conversion" of Edom
by offering the Edomites the option of living in the Kingdom of Israel if they "converted"
which they all did en masse. According to Josephus, thereafter the Edomites were Jews.

This is very important information to know while reading the New Testament... and explains
why some Judeans [Israelites] followed Christ [just as Christ said they would] while others
[like King Herod, an Edomite-jew] tried to kill Christ. This is why Paul used the Jacob/Esau
analogy [see Malachi 1:2] in Romans 9:13.


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Israelites became Christians just as Jesus said they would.
Jesus said He was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel.
Jesus said His sheep hear His voice and follow Him...
but Jesus told the unbelieving "Jews"... they were
not His sheep [ie, not Israel... they were descendants
of Edomite converts.]

This is a very important distinction that explains much
of what was happening in New Testament times.

Israelites were first called Christians in the book of Acts.
This fulfills the Isaiah 65:15 prophecy.

James 1:1 addresses all 12 tribes of Israel in the diaspora
in the name of Jesus Christ. Israelites had been scattered
as gentiles since at least the 8th century BC when God
divorced the Northern Kingdom of Israel and Assyria destroyed
the Israel kingdom , removing most of Israel from the Holy Land.

OT prophecy says all 12 tribes would be re-united under another
symbolic King David [all 12 tribes had previously been united under
the original King David]... and they were re-united under Jesus Christ.

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Jhn 14:2

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

hetoimazō
Pronunciation
he-toi-mä'-zō ἕτοιμος (G2092)
Dictionary Aids
Vine's Expository Dictionary: prepare (29x),make ready (10x), provide (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage

  1. to make ready, prepare
    1. to make the necessary preparations, get everything ready
  2. metaph.
    1. drawn from the oriental custom of sending on before kings on their journeys persons to level the roads and make them passable
    2. to prepare the minds of men to give the Messiah a fit reception and secure his blessings
Strong’s Definitions G2092; to prepare:—prepare, provide, make ready. Compare G2680.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
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Transliteration
topos
Pronunciation
to'-pos place (80x),room (5x), quarter (2x), licence (1x), coast (1x), where (1x),plain (with G3977) (1x), rock (with G5138) (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage
  1. place, any portion or space marked off, as it were from surrounding space
    1. an inhabited place, as a city, village, district

    2. a place (passage) in a book

    1. opportunity, power, occasion for acting
G5561 is a large but participle locality), i.e. location (as a position, home, tract, etc.); figuratively, condition, opportunity; specially, a scabbard:—coast, licence, place, × plain, quarter, + rock, room, where.
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we think of Jesus building us a house and it is just waiting for us to be raptured too it .
and that is not what he said. He is just making preparations for a place and the goods like king David did?
Yes in the house the Father is building is many mansions.
the New Jerusalem is Fathers house but that comes in the 8thday .

wow just loads of questions floating all around these subjects.
Each of us is one of the mansions of that house. It is the same thing as each of us being spiritual stones of the One House of the Lord, built upon Jesus. Same thing. Each of us is being individually prepared in the house in which we all comprise, the House of Israel Complete. We are that Bride adorned, coming down from God out of Heaven. We are that Mt Sion, New Jerusalem. The New Marriage Covenant fulfilled in His Blood, by which we now produce fruit, even the children of God. New mansions to be prepared for our One Big Eternal House :) Praise Jesus!
 
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Here's something else interesting... the new flag of New Russia Confederation [eastern Ukriane]
is exactly like the Confederate Southern Cross [Cross of St Andrew]... but without the stars.
So there is a symbolic connection between the current "civil war" in Ukraine... and the US
civil war era Confederate flag which is now causing conflict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:War_Flag_of_Novorussia.svg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya_(confederation)


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British Israelism has Norway and Russia as the same peoples (it is well known that the Vikings (ironically), brought 'civilization' to what is now "Russia"); descendants of Benjamin, so I immediately searched for the flag of Norway to see if they were the same or similiar. The battle flag of "New Russia" is very similar. It also represents the 'separatists', as did the battle flag of the South.

Flag of New Russia.
nosmall.gif
Flag of Norway


http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/flags/countrys/europe/norway.htm

Interest as well is that the "ravening wolf" is actually more common in Russia than is the "Russian bear". A bear doesn't "divide the spoil" as do wolves.
 
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