Are Pro ‘Traditional Marriage’ Christians Supposed To Say “Congrats” To A Newly-Wedded Gay Friend?

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It only took four posts before someone equated homosexuality and murder.

Good job!
If you bother to READ the reply you might be able to figure out that this was about accepting "flaws" and has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality. Your snarkiness though, is duly noted.
 
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Last year my cousin asked if I'd play music for her daughter's homosexual wedding I just stared and could only say, "what?" I was actually at a loss for words. I told her I didn't think we'd be able to and she offered a lot of money and I just stared again... it wasn't about the money I told her. She then became quite perturbed and began to sort of push me and I waved her away. Now I don't see that side of the family. I don't miss them. They openly celebrate an abomination.
A neice sleeps with every guy she meets nearly. So also do two of my nephews, any girl any time, they say it's healthy and enjoyable and they love it and that's that. Now I don't see them either. I don't miss them. They openly celebrate fornication and adultery.
Any flagrant disregard for the Righteousness of God, especially sexual, is disgusting. Of all sins, those are the most heinous to God, because they are a sin against one's own body, as well as against another's own body as well. (refs provided on request) Not to mention the absolutely unnatural disgust associated with even thinking of homosexual acts, as momentarily accidental as that may be, it is a devastatingly indecent act that can in no way be construed as "love". It is corrupted lawless "lust" at best. Throughout scriptures, they always break out into the open prior to being destroyed by the righteous King. So no matter what, they will one day be purged. If they won't be converted from their sins, I won't be respecting them or hanging around them for when the day of reckoning comes on them.
 
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I have a "if you can't improve the silence, then don't speak" mindset. Why not simply say, best wishes, or something neutral, if you don't support, gay marriage, and you are expected to say something about it?
 
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I'd have thought that friends accepted each other, flaws and all.

Yeah, that was my initial thought. How could you have a gay friend and then be opposed to wishing your gay friend well. I guess we have different definitions of the word friend. See, when I label someone as "friend" that means I have their cellphone number in my phone and occasionally see them socially: movies, games, dinner, etc.

Apparently, OP's definition of "friend" means someone you simply knows exists.

Incidentally, I would happily attend my friend's marriage because that is what friends do. So yeah, I'd have no problem wishing them well with their marriage.

I am your friend....I just murdered your entire family...still willing to accept my flaws?

Great argument, guess we can lock this thread now...

It only took four posts before someone equated homosexuality and murder.

Good job!

Thanks, you beat me to it. Wonder how long until this thread get's Godwined

If you bother to READ the reply you might be able to figure out that this was about accepting "flaws" and has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality. Your snarkiness though, is duly noted.

The snarkiness is 100% appropriate to your argumentative response. You equated murder to homosexual marriage. Period.
There is a difference between a flaw and an act that intentionally hurts someone.

Here, let me try to educate you.

Flaw: I openly burp LOUDLY after I eat a meal
Intentional act: I hit you in the face with a rock

See how the two things are not equivalent????

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Incidentally, gay marriage isn't a "flaw", being born homosexual is just like being born heterosexual. You are what you are...
 
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....Any flagrant disregard for the Righteousness of God, especially sexual, is disgusting. Of all sins, those are the most heinous to God, because they are a sin against one's own body, as well as against another's own body as well. (refs provided on request) ....

Imagine that you are in a commercial jet flying across the Pacific and it goes down and crash lands in the ocean. You manage to make it out of the plane and find an inflatable raft that seats 10 people. You make it to the raft and you notice some other survivors among the debris field. Do you feel you have a duty to aid them and help save their lives, or are you content to just sit back, relax, and hang out in your raft. You will not impede anyone trying to make it to your raft, but you won't help them either. Their survival is on them as far as you are concerned...

Whenever I see a Christian who delights in avoiding those they can save because they are sinners, I think of that Christian as the person in that raft, safe and secure while those around them drown.

In my humble opinion, the reason why Jesus says, "love your enemy" is so that we will be among our enemies. I mean, how else are you going to reach sinners and bring them to God? How many souls can you save if you are so easily detoured? Just think how happy you make Satan by your actions.

I'm being serious. Satan thanks you for your views. You see, when people like you avoid family members and sinners, you deprive them of an opportunity of hearing God's word and seeing the good things God can do.

One of the most effective ways to reach sinners is through example. If you are truly saved, if you are truly filled with the love and light of God, then others will see it. They will marvel at it. And over time they will say to themselves, "Man, I want that. I want to be like her! I want to be like him! I want to be like them!"

Then, those people will eventually approach you and be open and receptive to what you have to say about God...

Except in your case it won't happen because you won't be around. You can't be bothered to be around sinners. And thus, Satan thanks you for your thin skin and easily ruffled sensibilities.
 
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I am your friend....I just murdered your entire family...still willing to accept my flaws?

Let's put aside the twisted logic behind this, and move on to something more interesting. Aka what I'm saying here.

I don't consider murder a flaw, since murder is a premeditated act to take the life of another. Also, friends do not murder their friends' families, so chances are that if you did do something so foolish and evil, you weren't my friend to begin with.

And do not confuse me with a Christian, boyo. I don't have to accept you; I choose to accept certain people as an act of mercy, as well as for my own personal growth.

And, last but not least, you are implying homosexuality and murder are the same. You are also implying that homosexuality is a flaw.

One is a 'sin', or at the very least, against the law. The other is simply a preference, not a flaw at all.

Check yourself, before you wreck yourself, honey.
 
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No. It is an abominable act that should not be commended, it should be condemned.

Am I mistaken, or isn't all sin equivalent? I was under the assumption that sin is sin, that no sin is greater than another sin in the eyes of god.

Is that true? yes or no.

If the answer is yes, if sin is sin, then I don't understand the level of revulsion Christians feel for gays yet don't feel for those who engage in premarital sex, have children out of wedlock, are drunkards, or break any of the commandments...
 
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Am I mistaken, or isn't all sin equivalent? I was under the assumption that sin is sin, that no sin is greater than another sin in the eyes of god.

Is that true? yes or no.

If the answer is yes, if sin is sin, then I don't understand the level of revulsion Christians feel for gays yet don't feel for those who engage in premarital sex, have children out of wedlock, are drunkards, or break any of the commandments...
No, that wouldn't be correct to say all sins are equal.

If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. (1 John 5:16)

The revulsion is due to the fact that people are trying to push it across as something that is perfectly acceptable. You don't see many people trying to say being a drunkard is perfectly acceptable.
 
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Any flagrant disregard for the Righteousness of God, especially sexual, is disgusting. Of all sins, those are the most heinous to God...

They are the worst yet when your diety was handing down its laws you have to scroll down to #7 before you hit adultery and all the way to the fine print to find mention of homosexuality.
Throughout scriptures, they always break out into the open prior to being destroyed by the righteous King. So no matter what, they will one day be purged. If they won't be converted from their sins, I won't be respecting them or hanging around them for when the day of reckoning comes on them.

Do you wish to see the same purge of those who flaunt the abomination of other gods, graven images or working on Saturday?
 
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If you believe in sin.

I've thought on the subject of sin and my thoughts are that sin is an act against god.

Some actions and aspects of life have a rightness to them. Take for instance creating art or music. to me, there is something about that that is like getting a peek at the face of god. I know that is a corny overused line, but whatever, that is how I feel about creations that are beautiful...

Then there are acts that have a wrongness to them, like killing for the simply joy of it. To me, that is something that is just inherently "against" god.

My thoughts on homosexuality are simply that God made homosexuals and so I can't see being a homosexual as an abomination anymore than being a heterosexual. The only conflict now is that of the bible...

There are biblical scholars who argue that homosexuality isn't inherently evil and that people are misinterpreting the semantics and intent of the whole Sodom and Gomorrah passages.

Personally, my take on it is that I simply do not know, and thus by default I will just follow the spirit of the New Testament which is love and peace and forgiveness. I will love everyone and treat everyone like human beings and come Judgement day, god will sort everything out. But in the meantime, there is no reason whatsoever to "hate" homosexuals. Especially now that we have medical and scientific proof that there are biological and genetic aspects to sexual preference. And if that is the case, then that is God at work.

So again, above my paygrade and I will just default to Jesus's teachings of love and forgiveness...
 
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Imagine that you are in a commercial jet flying across the Pacific and it goes down and crash lands in the ocean. You manage to make it out of the plane and find an inflatable raft that seats 10 people. You make it to the raft and you notice some other survivors among the debris field. Do you feel you have a duty to aid them and help save their lives, or are you content to just sit back, relax, and hang out in your raft. You will not impede anyone trying to make it to your raft, but you won't help them either. Their survival is on them as far as you are concerned...

Whenever I see a Christian who delights in avoiding those they can save because they are sinners, I think of that Christian as the person in that raft, safe and secure while those around them drown.

In my humble opinion, the reason why Jesus says, "love your enemy" is so that we will be among our enemies. I mean, how else are you going to reach sinners and bring them to God? How many souls can you save if you are so easily detoured? Just think how happy you make Satan by your actions.

I'm being serious. Satan thanks you for your views. You see, when people like you avoid family members and sinners, you deprive them of an opportunity of hearing God's word and seeing the good things God can do.

One of the most effective ways to reach sinners is through example. If you are truly saved, if you are truly filled with the love and light of God, then others will see it. They will marvel at it. And over time they will say to themselves, "Man, I want that. I want to be like her! I want to be like him! I want to be like them!"

Then, those people will eventually approach you and be open and receptive to what you have to say about God...

Except in your case it won't happen because you won't be around. You can't be bothered to be around sinners. And thus, Satan thanks you for your thin skin and easily ruffled sensibilities.
Don't judge me. You have no idea what you are talking about. I should have indicated then for you that they are past the "dust shaken off the sandals" stage. Well into this stage now;

(Mat 19:29) And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

And it isn't for you to decide to chide me on something you know nothing about. That is more than rude
 
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