Seeking peace, happiness, and God

SeekingTheTrueGod · Jun 25, 2015

Hello fellow brothers and sisters,

I recently joined this forum, and here is my intro thread: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/seeking-the-true-god.7894136/

I was told that the thread is only for introductions, and should not be used for other discussions, so I decided to continue on my discussion here.

I ask you to read my first post on that thread (not the whole thread) in order to get a better understanding of what I am about to talk about.

I'm assuming you've read my first post on my intro thread, so I am going to continue now:

Today, for the first time in my life, I prayed to the Triune God (father, son, and the holy spirit). Instead of praying to Allah (Muslim God) to help me find the truth, I prayed to the Triune God. Allah never helped me, and never gave me peace and happiness. Therefore, I concluded that there was no point in praying to Allah. For that reason, today in all my senses I prayed to the Triune God. I asked him the same things I've asked Allah- peace, happiness, and riddance from all my problems. I prayed to him twice already (today), and I already feel peace and happiness. This whole time I thought it was Satan leading me away from Islam to Christianity, but now I believe it was the holy spirit that was leading me away from Islam to Christianity. In other words, I think it was the Triune God the whole time that was leading me away from Islam to Christianity. In all my senses, I abandoned Islam today. I became an apostate. However, I have yet not became a Christian. I believe the Triune God has helped me overcome the first barrier, which was to abandon (leave) Islam, and now the final barrier to cross is to accept Christianity. It's still very hard for me to do this. However, from today on I won't pray to Allah, but I will pray to the Triune God. I am not a Muslim anymore, but I am still not a Christian. I want the Triune God to reveal himself to me. I want to develop a connection with him, and only then I will accept Christianity. I want to accept Christianity when I remove myself from all doubts I have. I want the Triune God to show me a vision, or a dream. I always hear about people having visions and dreams, and I myself want visions and dreams where the Triune God reveals himself and the truth to me. I pray to him that he shows me a vision and a dream that will remove all my doubts; that will help me to come to know the truth; and that will help me come to know him. I promise him that I will accept Christianity once he reveals himself and the truth to me (preferably, by the means of visions and dreams). I pray to him for this.

Pray for me brothers and sisters. I pray to the Triune God for visions and dreams so I can overcome this last barrier and accept Christianity. I have overcome the first barrier which was to leave Islam, and now the last barrier is left which is to accept Christianity. Before I accept Christianity I want to remove myself from all doubts I have, and I want to know the truth. The whole time I've been praying to Allah to show me the truth (by the means of visions and dreams), but he hasn't responded. Now I've turned to pray to the Triune God, and I pray that he gives me visions and dreams that will help me overcome this last barrier, and that will help me come to know the truth and especially help me come to know him. Allah hasn't responded, and I hope that the Triune God does. Once the response is here (visions, dreams, etc.), then I will sacrifice everything (family, friends, etc.) and accept Christianity.

Any advice, help, and other words will be greatly appreciated brothers and sisters.

paul1149 · Jun 25, 2015

@SeekingTheTrueGod , I am so glad you are pressing forward to find God. There is so much to say. The testimonies of Muslims who have come to Christ never fail to awe me, because I am aware of what a high price they pay. Probably that is one reason the Lord has been pouring out the dreams and visions you mention, in order to affirm and strengthen them in their resolve.

The Lord deals with each of us individually. One may get a dream or vision, the next may first become satisfied intellectually, another may find the love he needs. Often there's a mix of "all of the above", but the Lord knows the right order and the right time for everything. All He asks of us is a sincere seeking heart.

In the book of Acts, which is the Bible's narrative of the doings of the early church, at one point the Gospel was brought to the city of Berea. The people of that town were commended:

Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. -Acts 17:11

So you see that these men needed to "do their homework" in the scriptures as a part of their coming to faith. God can do what He wants, of course, but many times the dreams and visions come alongside investigating the scripture.

Perhaps also you could visit a worship service nearby.

Perhaps you've already seen this, but one of my favorite testimonies concerns a Muslim who came exactly that way. Converting was the last thing he had in mind, but fellowship, scripture and then a dream convinced him. He offers some deep insight:

In the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7), Jesus promises us:

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?
Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent?
If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! -Matt 7:7-11

If you keep turning to Him, the Lord will graciously meet you, wherever you are. A prayer like, "God, whoever you are, I want to find You. I am going to seek you with all that I am, and I ask You to reveal Yourself to me", is all you need to get started. The Good Shepherd goes out of His way to find His lost sheep (Luke 15:4-7). He has done so for many of us here, and He will do so for you.

Blessings.

bling · Jun 25, 2015

SeekingTheTrueGod said:
Hello fellow brothers and sisters,

I recently joined this forum, and here is my intro thread: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/seeking-the-true-god.7894136/

I was told that the thread is only for introductions, and should not be used for other discussions, so I decided to continue on my discussion here.

I ask you to read my first post on that thread (not the whole thread) in order to get a better understanding of what I am about to talk about.

I'm assuming you've read my first post on my intro thread, so I am going to continue now:

Today, for the first time in my life, I prayed to the Triune God (father, son, and the holy spirit). Instead of praying to Allah (Muslim God) to help me find the truth, I prayed to the Triune God. Allah never helped me, and never gave me peace and happiness. Therefore, I concluded that there was no point in praying to Allah. For that reason, today in all my senses I prayed to the Triune God. I asked him the same things I've asked Allah- peace, happiness, and riddance from all my problems. I prayed to him twice already (today), and I already feel peace and happiness. This whole time I thought it was Satan leading me away from Islam to Christianity, but now I believe it was the holy spirit that was leading me away from Islam to Christianity. In other words, I think it was the Triune God the whole time that was leading me away from Islam to Christianity. In all my senses, I abandoned Islam today. I became an apostate. However, I have yet not became a Christian. I believe the Triune God has helped me overcome the first barrier, which was to abandon (leave) Islam, and now the final barrier to cross is to accept Christianity. It's still very hard for me to do this. However, from today on I won't pray to Allah, but I will pray to the Triune God. I am not a Muslim anymore, but I am still not a Christian. I want the Triune God to reveal himself to me. I want to develop a connection with him, and only then I will accept Christianity. I want to accept Christianity when I remove myself from all doubts I have. I want the Triune God to show me a vision, or a dream. I always hear about people having visions and dreams, and I myself want visions and dreams where the Triune God reveals himself and the truth to me. I pray to him that he shows me a vision and a dream that will remove all my doubts; that will help me to come to know the truth; and that will help me come to know him. I promise him that I will accept Christianity once he reveals himself and the truth to me (preferably, by the means of visions and dreams). I pray to him for this.

Pray for me brothers and sisters. I pray to the Triune God for visions and dreams so I can overcome this last barrier and accept Christianity. I have overcome the first barrier which was to leave Islam, and now the last barrier is left which is to accept Christianity. Before I accept Christianity I want to remove myself from all doubts I have, and I want to know the truth. The whole time I've been praying to Allah to show me the truth (by the means of visions and dreams), but he hasn't responded. Now I've turned to pray to the Triune God, and I pray that he gives me visions and dreams that will help me overcome this last barrier, and that will help me come to know the truth and especially help me come to know him. Allah hasn't responded, and I hope that the Triune God does. Once the response is here (visions, dreams, etc.), then I will sacrifice everything (family, friends, etc.) and accept Christianity.

Any advice, help, and other words will be greatly appreciated brothers and sisters.

It is wonderful to see your openness to God. It is great that you recognize issues with the God that the Muslims describe. I am glad you are praying to God. You show an extremely strong willingness to make a huge commitment with the right response from God.

What you are asking for is knowledge of the Christian God and not faith in the Christian God. The indwelling Holy Spirit only comes to Christians and as you have pointed out you are not a Christian yet.

You also sound like your “barging” with God: “you give me this and I’ll give you that”, which would mean you have earned what He gives you, even if you pay Him afterwards. That is not the way God works or will work. You need to expect nothing, realize you totally deserve nothing and just come humbly willing to accept whatever He will give you. Realize who you are and realize God your Father Loves you and is giving you what you need, not what you want nor what you deserve.

If you think you deserve “happiness” in this world and all your “problems” resolved, that is not what you need. This world is not your home and you are passing through to decide whether you want unconditional Love shown to you and for it to become part of you. This would is not our resting spot, but where we get to accept or reject Love and then get to use that love by allowing Deity to live in us and through us serving others.

orangeness365 · Jun 26, 2015

I hope you get that vision or dream. I'll pray for you to have one. Maybe you could go to the Prayer Wall on this site and ask for people to pray for you to have a vision or a dream.

FutureAndAHope · Jun 28, 2015

I hope you do finally make the decision to follow Jesus. He is a very real God, and you will not be disappointed. You mentioned when you prayed to the tribune God he gave you peace, try to focus on that. I have seen God perform many miracles in my life, but one thing I have come to realize is we can not always demand a certain type of miracle. God may or may not do it based upon our demand. I am not saying he will not give you a dream, but he may not. Try to focus on what God has already given you, that feeling of peace. I would also say start reading the bible, the New Testament mainly, as that is directed towards Christians. It will help you to see what Christ taught.

orangeness365 · Jul 3, 2015

There was also a book that came out, I haven't read it, but I saw an interview of the author on tv just now and he had three dreams and a Christian friend that led him to Christ. Maybe you could read it. It's called Seeking Allah Finding Jesus by Nabeel Qureshi.

SeekingTheTrueGod · Jul 3, 2015

orangeness365 said:
There was also a book that came out, I haven't read it, but I saw an interview of the author on tv just now and he had three dreams and a Christian friend that led him to Christ. Maybe you could read it. It's called Seeking Allah Finding Jesus by Nabeel Qureshi.

I know about Nabeel Qureshi, and I've seen many videos of him on YouTube. I haven't read his book though yet, although I have a very good idea of what it's about. He's actually someone I look up to. I know about the visions and dreams he received, as well as visions and dreams other converts received; that's the reason I want to receive visions and dreams too. I know visions and dreams will greatly help me, so I pray to God to receive them.

orangeness365 · Jul 3, 2015

SeekingTheTrueGod said:
I know about Nabeel Qureshi, and I've seen many videos of him on YouTube. I haven't read his book though yet, although I have a very good idea of what it's about. He's actually someone I look up to. I know about the visions and dreams he received, as well as visions and dreams other converts received; that's the reason I want to receive visions and dreams too. I know visions and dreams will greatly help me, so I pray to God to receive them.

Well I hope you receive a dream or vision as well.

WillowWhisp · Jul 11, 2015

Hello.

It is great to hear that you already feel peace and happiness after praying to God. I am also in a situation where I would like something to happen (such as a dream) in order to finally give me faith in him. I have been praying for this for a long time - a year or more and my faith is definitely greater than it was back then, but 'it' still hasn't happened for me yet. My advice would be to not give up, I frequently ask myself why God is taking so long to 'get back to me' and to give me what he knows I need to convince me in my heart (as my head is already convinced.) We cannot understand God's timing, but please don't lose heart if this dream does not happen for you soon. Perhaps God knows best for you and knows that giving you this dream that you think you want, isn't really what is best for you right now. There is a story in the Old Testament about quails (this sounds silly but bare with me...) I can't remember exactly how it goes but God's people are basically complaining to him that he isn't giving them the food and the meat that they want, so they ask and ask him for it. Finally, God gives in and sends them quails upon quails galore... quails everywhere, until they are absolutely sick of seeing quails and just want to return to how things were before they were complaining. Sometimes we need to look at the possibility that maybe God knows what is best for us, even if we think we know what is best for us right now. it is hard to accept sometimes and I do have periods where I doubt and lose my patience!

I hope you can see what I was getting it... good luck and please feel free to message me if you would like to talk some more.

Truthfrees · Sep 21, 2015

SeekingTheTrueGod said:
I know about Nabeel Qureshi, and I've seen many videos of him on YouTube. I haven't read his book though yet, although I have a very good idea of what it's about. He's actually someone I look up to. I know about the visions and dreams he received, as well as visions and dreams other converts received; that's the reason I want to receive visions and dreams too. I know visions and dreams will greatly help me, so I pray to God to receive them.

Praying for you as you requested. :groupray:

Leslie B · Sep 21, 2015

Wow this is great!
God bless u

Steven Wood · Sep 21, 2015

SeekingTheTrueGod said:
Hello fellow brothers and sisters,

I recently joined this forum, and here is my intro thread: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/seeking-the-true-god.7894136/

I was told that the thread is only for introductions, and should not be used for other discussions, so I decided to continue on my discussion here.

I ask you to read my first post on that thread (not the whole thread) in order to get a better understanding of what I am about to talk about.

I'm assuming you've read my first post on my intro thread, so I am going to continue now:

Today, for the first time in my life, I prayed to the Triune God (father, son, and the holy spirit). Instead of praying to Allah (Muslim God) to help me find the truth, I prayed to the Triune God. Allah never helped me, and never gave me peace and happiness. Therefore, I concluded that there was no point in praying to Allah. For that reason, today in all my senses I prayed to the Triune God. I asked him the same things I've asked Allah- peace, happiness, and riddance from all my problems. I prayed to him twice already (today), and I already feel peace and happiness. This whole time I thought it was Satan leading me away from Islam to Christianity, but now I believe it was the holy spirit that was leading me away from Islam to Christianity. In other words, I think it was the Triune God the whole time that was leading me away from Islam to Christianity. In all my senses, I abandoned Islam today. I became an apostate. However, I have yet not became a Christian. I believe the Triune God has helped me overcome the first barrier, which was to abandon (leave) Islam, and now the final barrier to cross is to accept Christianity. It's still very hard for me to do this. However, from today on I won't pray to Allah, but I will pray to the Triune God. I am not a Muslim anymore, but I am still not a Christian. I want the Triune God to reveal himself to me. I want to develop a connection with him, and only then I will accept Christianity. I want to accept Christianity when I remove myself from all doubts I have. I want the Triune God to show me a vision, or a dream. I always hear about people having visions and dreams, and I myself want visions and dreams where the Triune God reveals himself and the truth to me. I pray to him that he shows me a vision and a dream that will remove all my doubts; that will help me to come to know the truth; and that will help me come to know him. I promise him that I will accept Christianity once he reveals himself and the truth to me (preferably, by the means of visions and dreams). I pray to him for this.

Pray for me brothers and sisters. I pray to the Triune God for visions and dreams so I can overcome this last barrier and accept Christianity. I have overcome the first barrier which was to leave Islam, and now the last barrier is left which is to accept Christianity. Before I accept Christianity I want to remove myself from all doubts I have, and I want to know the truth. The whole time I've been praying to Allah to show me the truth (by the means of visions and dreams), but he hasn't responded. Now I've turned to pray to the Triune God, and I pray that he gives me visions and dreams that will help me overcome this last barrier, and that will help me come to know the truth and especially help me come to know him. Allah hasn't responded, and I hope that the Triune God does. Once the response is here (visions, dreams, etc.), then I will sacrifice everything (family, friends, etc.) and accept Christianity.

Any advice, help, and other words will be greatly appreciated brothers and sisters.

Your testimony makes me very happy and I praise GOD. I will also pray for you. My advice is careful advice for you. It is almost shaky ground that you are walking on.Please continue to pray with an open heart seeking Christ because with an open heart and faith that you will find him is only when you will. I can tell you that in my life I've had many dreams concerning things I didn't understand at the time, I past them off as just dreams but long down the road as matters came to play, they were important. GOD works on his time not ours. Jesus calling you to him at this time is very important, studying his word will give you what you're looking for.

BeStill&Know · Sep 23, 2015

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