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Friend with depression is abusive

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I have a friend that has suffered from depression for years. He suffered from severe depression and panic attacks. He's just turned 31 and always complaining that he's never had a girlfriend due to his depression. Would meet nice girls and then one bad mood...boom it's over. Lately he's gotten really really bad. Won't discuss how he's feeling with me or anyone in his family....yet I get these bizarre chat messages with words almost screaming like obscenities. He'll get really negative.
He's always been short with me, but I've always tried to be calm, patient, and kind...just listening. I'm not allowed to ask how he's doing or discuss treatment, medication whatever...but he sends me messages telling me he's not ok...that he can't eat, sleep, worries he'll never marry. Well...the caring individual that I am I asked if he was taking meds or switching them...they might make him feel a little better. He started screaming at me...literally. That I have offended him, that I obviously don't care, I'll never understand how he feels or what he's been through, that I was told never to ask how he is or to talk about it. That noone or nothing will ever be able to help him...NEVER!!! Yet, he's the one bringing it up all of the time.
I got very angry. I'd had enough of his junk. What does he want me to do? What can I do? Nothing....but I will not put up with his abusive behavior. He went on to call me horrible names, names that I've never in my life been called by anyone, that he hopes my marriage fails and that husband sees the real me and divorces me. huh?
I may not have the best marriage, but at least I'm open about it...talk about it. I don't shove it under the carpet pretending it doesn't exist. Constantly working through issues and trying to fix what is needed...sure it's not depression, but I still hurt.
Needless to say I gave him a few choice words and I'm sorry, but at the moment I hoped it hurt. He's mean and nasty and if he doesn't continuously seek help and stay on meds...he will never be married...and will be alone for the rest of his life.
He's scary when he's like that. SCARY!
I actually cried when it was over. Really cried. Partly because I care, really care about how he's doing, and also the names he called me and the things he said to me stung and hurt me so deeply.
Should I apologize or just let the friendship go and be done with him?
There is no talking to him...no reasoning with him. He's crazy. He needs major help, but won't get it. Honestly I want him out of my life, but I do worry about him.
I've prayed for him...I really have, but God seems to just sit there.
Why can't people who have this feel better? Why can't God take this away? It's awful, but at the same time I can't imagine anyone being married to him. She would feel deflated time and time again. I think he would hurt her emotionally and possibly physically.
I worry that one day suicide will be his only option.
Why has he just given up? He's a beautiful guy...could be a great husband and father possibly. I don't know.
I suffer depression and am on meds, but nothing like this so it is difficult for me to understand. I just can't do anything, ya know?
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For the Christian, forgiveness and love are the only real options I believe. Please continue to support and be there for him. Odds are, he truly regrets his words and actions. Yes, he should express this regret, but human pride is an ugly and common thing. I realize even the mentally ill individual must be held responsible for his words and actions and that we will never be tempted more than we can bear, but from my perspective, whether it be suicidal thoughts, tears, frustration, bitterness, or anger - even if I realize such emotions are illogical and inappropriate - I struggle not to give in to them. Ignore his angry and negative words, do not indulge them by way of response, even a polite one; it "takes to tango", so to speak. Encourage any positive action he makes. Edify him with kind, but honest words.

Look at this way. You can be the individual who pulls another from a very dark place. You alone may have the privilege of being in the position to do so. I imagine it cannot be easy, but would it not be a great thing and pleasing to God if your endurance and patience led your friend to better mental health and a relationship with Christ?

Praying for you and him.
 
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I have a friend that has suffered from depression for years. He suffered from severe depression and panic attacks. He's just turned 31 and always complaining that he's never had a girlfriend due to his depression. Would meet nice girls and then one bad mood...boom it's over. Lately he's gotten really really bad. Won't discuss how he's feeling with me or anyone in his family....yet I get these bizarre chat messages with words almost screaming like obscenities. He'll get really negative.
He's always been short with me, but I've always tried to be calm, patient, and kind...just listening. I'm not allowed to ask how he's doing or discuss treatment, medication whatever...but he sends me messages telling me he's not ok...that he can't eat, sleep, worries he'll never marry. Well...the caring individual that I am I asked if he was taking meds or switching them...they might make him feel a little better. He started screaming at me...literally. That I have offended him, that I obviously don't care, I'll never understand how he feels or what he's been through, that I was told never to ask how he is or to talk about it. That noone or nothing will ever be able to help him...NEVER!!! Yet, he's the one bringing it up all of the time.
I got very angry. I'd had enough of his junk. What does he want me to do? What can I do? Nothing....but I will not put up with his abusive behavior. He went on to call me horrible names, names that I've never in my life been called by anyone, that he hopes my marriage fails and that husband sees the real me and divorces me. huh?
I may not have the best marriage, but at least I'm open about it...talk about it. I don't shove it under the carpet pretending it doesn't exist. Constantly working through issues and trying to fix what is needed...sure it's not depression, but I still hurt.
Needless to say I gave him a few choice words and I'm sorry, but at the moment I hoped it hurt. He's mean and nasty and if he doesn't continuously seek help and stay on meds...he will never be married...and will be alone for the rest of his life.
He's scary when he's like that. SCARY!
I actually cried when it was over. Really cried. Partly because I care, really care about how he's doing, and also the names he called me and the things he said to me stung and hurt me so deeply.
Should I apologize or just let the friendship go and be done with him?
There is no talking to him...no reasoning with him. He's crazy. He needs major help, but won't get it. Honestly I want him out of my life, but I do worry about him.
I've prayed for him...I really have, but God seems to just sit there.
Why can't people who have this feel better? Why can't God take this away? It's awful, but at the same time I can't imagine anyone being married to him. She would feel deflated time and time again. I think he would hurt her emotionally and possibly physically.
I worry that one day suicide will be his only option.
Why has he just given up? He's a beautiful guy...could be a great husband and father possibly. I don't know.
I suffer depression and am on meds, but nothing like this so it is difficult for me to understand. I just can't do anything, ya know?
Thoughts?

it is so tough for me to tell you what you should do.

but here are my thoughts

I used to have this friend with bi polar, when he is high, he is rude, and I hated him for it, but in time I realized it was his illness.

I also have a diagnosis, so I know from experience how depression can distort one' thinking.

at the same time, I also know we have to look after ourselves and our family first, so if you find his behavior overwhelming, it maybe wise to take some time off and keep distance.....

anyway, it is a tough one......

the best strategy would be to talk with him and try to resolve this when he is doing better, but only you know if that possible.....

just a final note, sometimes with people who suffer from depression, they just need to unload, in another word, giving them advice in those situations is not best thing to do, the best thing to do is to let them so whatever they want, and on your side, it goes in one ear, and coming out the other.

though it does require wisdom and experience to know what that applies.

but I thinking letting people unload is just as helpful as giving them advice, depending on the situation.

I pray that God will give you wisdom to know to do

God Bless
 
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Hi Beth :wave:

That's a really tough situation! I'm really sorry. I know I personally have taken out my anger and frustrations on an undeserving person at times recently, when dealing with lot of insecurities/worries/depression etc. But not quite to that aggressive extent (yet :?) I don't think.

The swearing etc is unaccceptable. He is obviously frustrated with himself and life for his lack of improvement. I do feel for him,and he needs to express it somehow, and sadly it's all too easy to take it out on those closest to you. He needs someont to possibly be calm and rational...try not to take his comments too personally, but if they are really bad, screaming, swearing, just don't respond, and if you really can't cope with it, say you'll speak to him when he's a bit calmer, you want to help, because you can't stay whilst he speaks to you like that. Maybe a line needs to be drawn if he's actually personally calling you horrible, abusive names...

It's not acceptable, but at the same time, rest assured it most likely isn't you. He sounds really troubled, and to be honest, probably needs to see a mental health professiona to help him with his problemsl :( They ccan often be good at helping, but remaing somewhat detached emotionally, and most likely won't take any outbursts personally, but help him process his thoughts and problems in a more healthy way. And it will help him to know you are there as a friend. Try not to cut him off if possible, but if he is getting too nasty and aggressive, feel free to draw some firm boundaries, so you are not abused too much "I doc are about you, but I can't keep talking to you whilst you are speaking to me like this. When you stop verbally abusing me, then we can resume" And please encourage him to see a professional. He really sounds like he needs it.

Praying for you and him :hugs: What a tough situation.
 
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