The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

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No, long before

Example of part of the first remnant [Revelation 7:1-8; 14:1-7]

Another part [Zechariah 14:1-5; Matthew 24:15-16; Revelation 12:6; 12:14]

Others [Zechariah 13:8-9; Romans 11:25-36; Revelation 11:3]

All of the above will be, and must believers, and saved without sight [just like you are] before the Lord appears visibily just after the days of the tribulation

And when they actually see Him at the end of the tribulation they will mourn .... with joy

And even those in unbelief and dead will also see Him .... but it will be too late for them .... all of Israel and the balance of the unbelieving dead will end up here [Revelation 20:11-15]
 
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Example of part of the first remnant [Revelation 7:1-8; 14:1-7]

Another part [Zechariah 14:1-5; Matthew 24:15-16; Revelation 12:6; 12:14]

Others [Zechariah 13:8-9; Romans 11:25-36; Revelation 11:3]

All of the above will be, and must believers, and saved without sight [just like you are] before the Lord appears visibily just after the days of the tribulation

And when they actually see Him at the end of the tribulation they will mourn .... with joy

And even those in unbelief and dead will also see Him .... but it will be too late for them .... all of Israel and the balance of the unbelieving dead will end up here [Revelation 20:11-15]
From your previous post #279
"Here are just 3 [Jeremiah 30; Ezekiel 36; Micah 5] .... this explains it all in the Lord's own words "

I though that you were talking about the remnant part of Israel alive after the great tribulation turning to Jesus and gathered by Jesus ... now you are talking about the 144,000 and about all believers who have and will died in Christ whose souls are in Heaven ...

Jeremiah 30

30 The word that came to Jeremiah from Jehovah, saying,
2 Thus speaketh Jehovah, the God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.

3 For, lo, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will turn again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith Jehovah; and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.

4 And these are the words that Jehovah spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
 
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I must talk about both

The Lord's salvation is one thing, for both the "Jew" and the Gentile

However, national preservation for Israel is another

The Lord intends to preserve Israel as a nation [it is His]

At the same time, He intends to make an ultimate ending of the nations of the Gentiles

Your position reflects a post tribulation view .... true?

The Lord is going to intervene at the onset of the tribulation .... it is His hour [time] of trial and judgment that He will personally bring upon an unbelieving world [the beginning of the Day of the Lord ].... it is just that He will not appear to the earth dwellers until the end of the days allotted

And I can tell you that He is present now as we speak .... observing .... and waiting .... you just cannot see Him

.... but He will not tarry forever
 
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I must talk about both

The Lord's salvation is one thing, for both the "Jew" and the Gentile

However, national preservation for Israel is another

The Lord intends to preserve Israel as a nation [it is His]

At the same time, He intends to make an ultimate ending of the nations of the Gentiles

Your position reflects a post tribulation view .... true?

The Lord is going to intervene at the onset of the tribulation .... it is His hour [time] of trial and judgment that He will personally bring upon an unbelieving world [the beginning of the Day of the Lord ].... it is just that He will not appear to the earth dwellers until the end of the days allotted

And I can tell you that He is present now as we speak .... observing .... and waiting .... you just cannot see Him

.... but He will not tarry forever
Do you believe that the actual State of Israel founded in 1948 is the gathering of the remnant of Israel and Judah that the Scriptures talk about ?
[[URL='http://www.christianforums.com/bible/jeremiah/30/']Jeremiah 30; Ezekiel 36; Micah 5][/URL]

Jeremiah 30


30 The word that came to Jeremiah from Jehovah, saying,
2 Thus speaketh Jehovah, the God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.

3 For, lo, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will turn again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith Jehovah; and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.

4 And these are the words that Jehovah spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
 
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The Reset of Civilization

The Word of God [the Bible] tells us that He is the Creator of all things. He has the ability to do anything that he chooses. He made the earth and set humans upon it.
It’s been nearly 2000 years since the last time we were given Divine instructions, that is: as written in the Bible. Since then, people have mostly pursued their own interests, worshipping false gods, promoting evolution and denying the existence of their Creator.

We are told that thousands of years ago people were in a similar situation, having degenerated into apostasy and sin. Only one righteous man and his family were kept alive as God destroyed all the rest by a worldwide flood. Jesus predicted that ‘once again it will be as in the days of Noah’ and when He comes again, we should be prepared. [Matthew 24:37-44] The Creator God ‘reset civilization’ in Noah’s day and now we are facing the same judgement. God promised after the Flood, to never again use water or wipe out life so completely. [Genesis 9:11] But in Deut. 32:22 & 34-35, He tells us of a terrible fire punishment stored up for His enemies, on their Day of Doom. Isa. 54:9-10

There are many descriptions in the prophesies of this sudden and devastating worldwide Day of fire and earthquakes, most are either ignored or allegorized because people cannot see any literal fulfilment. The biggest difficulty that most have, is realizing the difference between the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath and the Return of Jesus in His glory.

Isaiah 13:9-13 The Day of the Lord is coming, that cruel Day of wrath and fierce anger, to reduce the earth to desolation and to destroy the wicked there. The sun, moon and stars will give no light. Humans will become scarce, as rare as fine gold and the earth will quake at the wrath of God on the Day of His blazing anger.

This and many other prophesies cannot be reconciled with the glorious Return of Jesus, when ‘every eye will see Him’. It is clearly stated that on the Day of wrath, He will not be seen. [Psalm 18:11, Hab. 3:4] We are told in Revelation 6:17, that the sixth seal judgement is the Day of the Lord’s wrath and then the seventh seal is an ‘about a 20 year’ time gap when the world recovers, enabling righteous Israel to return to the holy Land and the rise of a One World government. Then, after most of the rest of the prophesies are fulfilled, Jesus will Return and commence His Millennial reign.

The main reason that most people fail to get what the Bible tells us, is that the Lord has placed on us a spirit of misunderstanding and ‘If you confuse yourself, then you will stay confused’ Isaiah 29:9-12. Only in the last days, before this shocking event, will a few finally understand what the Lord has planned. [Daniel 12:10]
 
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Israel must be present in the land in unbelief and surrounded by Israel's Muslim enemies

The time of Jacob's trouble is coming [the 70th week decreed]
That is right that the 1948 creation of the State of Israel was inevitable and allowed by God to fulfill the end time prophecy.However that is not the true gathering of Israel and Judah that the Scriptures is talking about.
The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was needed to fulfill the prophecies concerning the AC/Little Horn at some point in the future.Before the second coming of Jesus.

Satan's Final Deception Before Christ Returns

After the Third World War, the New Temple Will Be Rebuilt for Antichrist, Not Jesus Christ
It is the synagogue of Satan (those that say they are Jews but are not) that will rebuild Solomon's temple.
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The Middle East crisis will lead to World War III.. Antichrist will appear at the end of WWIII to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. A one-world government with a one-world religion will be established, the anti-Christian kingdom prophesied in chapter 13 of the book of Revelation. This one-world power will offer apparent peace and security to a world in chaos. The devil, Satan, will establish his earthly kingdom for "the time allowed mentioned in the Bible/ for a time, and times, and half a time," so that he as God will stand in the holy place, showing himself that he is God, and he will deceive many with his signs and wonders.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them. - 1st Thessalonians 5:3
The goal of the New Jerusalem Covenant Project is to create the plan by which Antichrist can solve the Middle East crisis; Antichrist will use this crisis to stage his appearance in the world. Antichrist is supposed to appear at the end of the Middle East crisis (World War III). The prophetic reality of Daniel 9:24-27, Matthew 24:15 and Revelation 11:1-12 is that the new Temple will be built after World War III and will produce the Man of Sin. Thus, the Illuminati plans to destroy the Dome of the Rock during the World War III fighting so that their Antichrist can rebuild Solomon's Temple.This reality means that Arabs will retain control over the Temple Mount until the moment Antichrist comes to the world scene and seizes it for the Jews so his temple can be created. "Peace and safety" will be heralded, and the leaders of the major nations will be busy taking credit for their "brilliant" leadership that seemingly finally solved the deeply engrained religious strife in and around Jerusalem that has plagued mankind for the past 1,400 years.-
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http://oneworldpower.blogspot.ca/2009/09/new-temple-will-be-built-after-third.html
 
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Riberra, your source above seems to not be Christian. At least, they have missed a lot of Bible truth.
The Third Temple will be built by the new inhabitants of all the Holy Land, soon after it is cleared and cleansed by the Sixth Seal devastation. Many scriptures prove that, mainly Ezekiel 40-48. It is God's Temple; 2 Thessalonians 2:4
The Anti-Christ will come to New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] conquer them, Zechariah 14:1-2 and sit in the Holy of Holies. This triggers the Great Trib. and 3.5 years later Jesus Returns.
 
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"That is right that the 1948 creation of the State of Israel was inevitable and allowed by God to fulfill the end time prophecy.However that is not the true gathering of Israel and Judah that the Scriptures is talking about."

Correct .... but necessary

The rest of your post is highly suspect and mostly conjecture [extra biblical .... and of the conspiracy buffs]

Stick to the scriptures if you want truth .... I would suggest not mixing with the ideas that you have added
 
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"The Anti-Christ will come to New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] conquer them, Zechariah 14:1-2 and sit in the Holy of Holies. This triggers the Great Trib. and 3.5 years later Jesus Returns."


True .... and I would say that he will sit in the temple of his "god" which is already on the mount today

.... and the hottest part for Israel will be the occupation days of the second 1260 .... then the Lord will intervene to save a believing remnant part from destruction
 
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That is right that the 1948 creation of the State of Israel was inevitable and allowed by God to fulfill the end time prophecy.However that is not the true gathering of Israel and Judah that the Scriptures is talking about.
The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was needed to fulfill the prophecies concerning the AC/Little Horn at some point in the future.Before the second coming of Jesus.

Satan's Final Deception Before Christ Returns

After the Third World War, the New Temple Will Be Rebuilt for Antichrist, Not Jesus Christ
It is the synagogue of Satan (those that say they are Jews but are not) that will rebuild Solomon's temple.
....
The Middle East crisis will lead to World War III.. Antichrist will appear at the end of WWIII to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. A one-world government with a one-world religion will be established, the anti-Christian kingdom prophesied in chapter 13 of the book of Revelation. This one-world power will offer apparent peace and security to a world in chaos. The devil, Satan, will establish his earthly kingdom for "the time allowed mentioned in the Bible/ for a time, and times, and half a time," so that he as God will stand in the holy place, showing himself that he is God, and he will deceive many with his signs and wonders.
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them. - 1st Thessalonians 5:3
The goal of the New Jerusalem Covenant Project is to create the plan by which Antichrist can solve the Middle East crisis; Antichrist will use this crisis to stage his appearance in the world. Antichrist is supposed to appear at the end of the Middle East crisis (World War III). The prophetic reality of Daniel 9:24-27, Matthew 24:15 and Revelation 11:1-12 is that the new Temple will be built after World War III and will produce the Man of Sin. Thus, the Illuminati plans to destroy the Dome of the Rock during the World War III fighting so that their Antichrist can rebuild Solomon's Temple.This reality means that Arabs will retain control over the Temple Mount until the moment Antichrist comes to the world scene and seizes it for the Jews so his temple can be created. "Peace and safety" will be heralded, and the leaders of the major nations will be busy taking credit for their "brilliant" leadership that seemingly finally solved the deeply engrained religious strife in and around Jerusalem that has plagued mankind for the past 1,400 years.-
Source:
http://oneworldpower.blogspot.ca/2009/09/new-temple-will-be-built-after-third.html
Riberra, stop and think for a minute. What event ended WWII? It was the two Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan.

Since then the nations of the world have 60 or 70,000 nuclear weapons. If there was a WWIII, this planet would be lifeless.

The scenario you are suggesting is not realistic.
 
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