The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

Riberra · Jun 29, 2015

keras said:
You are right, the Sixth Seal disaster will force the nations to form a OWG. But it will be several years after that, when the AC comes to power and makes that peace treaty with Beulah.

That is right that the AC/Little Horn alone will be able to unite the ten kingdoms into a OWG and one world religion/the adoration of his person.But the rising of the ten kingdoms will occurs during the years of rebuilt following the worldwide destruction of the 6th seal great earthquake... as i explain in details in the OP in post #1.
The plan to divide the world into 10 kingdoms which will become the OWG once the AC become public is in existence since the end of WW2...that is this plan -10 kingdoms- that the power that be (PTB) from their underground bunkers will put in action ...with only a small modification to the original plan -no need for WW3 to create havoc...-
Link
UN Divides the World into 10 Regional Groupings

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The Post War II New World Order Map: A Proposal to Re-arrange the World after an Allied Victory | Global Research

-Listen now to God's prophecy concerning the secret plans which these 10 rulers devise to seize control of the world and then hand this control over to Antichrist [the Beast]. Notice that these 10 rulers are secretly working with Antichrist even before he becomes public:
Revelation 17:12-13,17
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...17&version=KJV

"The 10 horns that you observed are 10 rulers... who are to receive power and authority for a single hour, along with the beast. These have one common policy (purpose), and they deliver their power to the beast... God has put it into their hearts to carry out His own purpose by acting in harmony in surrendering their royal power and authority to the beast until the prophetic words of God shall be fulfilled." [Revelation 17:12-13, 17]
A careful reading of this passage makes it very clear that the 10 rulers devise a plan prior to the appearance of Antichrist, and that they plan to turn their political power over to the Antichrist as soon as he arises. This scenario is very consistent with Daniel's revelations about the 10 toes and 10 rulers in chapters 2 and 7, respectively.

keras said:
The first half seems to be peaceful, only when the AC breaks it and comes to Jerusalem and sits in the new Temple does the SHTF. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
Re the many, Daniel 9:27, we see in Daniel 11:32 describes two types of people; those who violate the Covenant and those who are faithful to their God. I see the former as people who will remain in the Holy Land and the latter as those who will leave for 3.5 years, to come back as described in Mathew 24:30

The first half seem to be peaceful because it will be under martial law during the years following the destruction caused by the 6 th seal great earthquake.See my reply above about the rising of the 10 kingdoms.

keras said:
The Day of the Lord, that is mentioned at the 7th Vial is the Great Day of Almighty God, not the terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath, which is indisputably the Sixth Seal. Revelation 6:17

-The Sixth Seal worldwide destruction caused by the great earthquake is the marking point starting the beginning of the Great Tribulation.
-The killing of the two witnesses by the beast and their resurrection mark the mid tribulation and the beginning of the 3 1/2 years allowed to Satan's reign on earth (Satan/The beast possessing the AC/Little Horn).
-The 7 vials full of the wrath of God: are the wrath of God
-Vial number 7 is the the Great Day of Almighty God/Day of the Lord (24 hours)/Jesus second coming/Parousia and will include: Jesus coming as a thief (Rev 16:15), the great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great (Rev 16:18:20) the plague of the 100 pounds hail stone Rev 16:21;... and the battle of Armageddon.

Revelation 16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Riberra · Jun 30, 2015

BABerean2 said:
Both Elijah and Moses were men, made of flesh, just like us.
It was God who performed those miraculous events to prove His Power, during their time.

There is nothing to prevent God from using a modern man or men, just like you, for the same purpose.

It does not really matter who these two witnesses will be .There is no doubt that they will be there prophesying a thousand two hundred and threescore days probably during the same time of the 7 Trumpets and will have the power to pour out their own sets of plagues, all that together will cause the nations to be very angry because they will associate the whole thing as being caused by the two witnesses send by God ....
Revelation 11
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
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18 And the nations were angry ...(against God )

keras · Jun 30, 2015

Thank you, Riberra, I commend you for your accurate exegesis in the 2 posts above.

My only dispute is, I don't see how the GT could commence immediately after the Sixth Seal. There is the Seventh Seal time gap and several years must pass before the AC is powerful enough to conquer new Israel.

Riberra said:
The Sixth Seal worldwide destruction caused by the great earthquake is the marking point starting the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

Straightshot · Jun 30, 2015

"My only dispute is, I don't see how the GT could commence immediately after the Sixth Seal. There is the Seventh Seal time gap and several years must pass before the AC is powerful enough to conquer new Israel."

Here is the adjustment for you:

The small time of the silence of the 7th is for the sealing of the 144000 mortals of the children of Israel to be sealed for protection during their mission in the tribulation [Revelation 7:1-8; 14:1-7]

And the entire 70th week [1260 days+1260 days] +30 days is all part of the great tribulation

Notice the link between the quake in Revelation 6:12 and the beginning quake in Revelation 8:5 .... they are the same

The tribulation will last for 2550 days non-stop

The first 1260 days will involve the rising of Satan's beast in the human little horn of Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:8-25; 9:26-27 [the other prince that shall come]; 11:36-45; 12:7]

The upheaval of the earth from the Lord's unprecedented wrath will create a global blade runner society and the little horn and his Muslim confederacy will thrive this chaos and confusion

.... then this one will invade and occupy Israel for the next 1260 days [Revelation 11:2; 13:1-5]

Then Lord will destroy the same during the battle of Armageddon in the next 30 days [Daniel 12:11; Revelation 14:14-20; 16:1-16; 19:11-21]

Ezekiel's vision of the same has two parts .... the invasion at the middle of the 70th week .... and the battle of Armageddon just after the second 1260 days of his occupation of Israel [42 months]

Riberra · Jun 30, 2015

keras said:
My only dispute is, I don't see how the GT could commence immediately after the Sixth Seal. There is the Seventh Seal time gap and several years must pass before the AC is powerful enough to conquer new Israel.

Events will happen fast after the destruction caused by the great earthquake of the 6 Th seal:
-Revelation Chapter 7 -And after these things- show the urgency to seal the 144,000 for protection immediately after the events of the 6Th seal ...

-And after the sealing of the 144,000
the 7 Th seal in Revelation 8 is opened for preparing the seven angels ...

-The trumpets will happen during the first half of the tribulation ...

-The AC/Little Horn best tool to conquer Israel when he will begin to appear publicly in the world scene -after the rising of the ten kingdoms- is that the State of Israel's -high priests- (Synagogue of Satan) will promote him as being their long awaited Messiah ...Not only the Little Horn will speak great things aligned with what Israel expect hearing from their their long awaited Messiah but he will do miracles in company of the false prophet.

Daniel 7
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another horn, a little one, before which three of the first horns were plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking great things.

keras · Jul 1, 2015

sSorry you two, but I go along with Psalms 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8, the 2 witnesses of the truth that time to God is different to our earthly time. The given formula is 1 day to God in heaven = 1000 years on earth.
Where is the about a half hour of the Seventh Seal observed? IN HEAVEN
So a simple calculation of 1/48th of 1000 years = 20.8 years, but as it is 'about', it could be as much as 26 years or as little as 15 years.
This is right for all that is prophesied to happen from the Sixth Seal until the Return. Rev. 8:2, the commencement of the GT, only starts 3.5 years, or 42 months, or 1260 days before the Return. And the reason there is, at that time, a 360 day year is told to us in Isaiah 13:13... the earth shall be moved from her place.... The hit from the billion + ton mass of a CME sunstrike, as prophesied in over 100 detailed Bible passages, will strike the earth a glancing blow. [or nothing would survive] It will speed up our orbit by 5 1/4 days a year.

Straight, I do not see any link between Rev 6:12, where every mountain and island is moved from their places and Rev 8:5, where thunder, lightning are accompanied by just another earthquake. There are more e/qs to come as well: Rev 11:19, Rev 16:18.
Are you mixing up the Gog/Magog attack with Armageddon? In no way are they the same events.

Riberra · Jul 1, 2015

keras said:
Sorry you two, but I go along with Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8, the 2 witnesses of the truth that time to God is different to our earthly time. The given formula is 1 day to God in heaven = 1000 years on earth.
Where is the about a half hour of the Seventh Seal observed? IN HEAVEN
So a simple calculation of 1/48th of 1000 years = 20.8 years, but as it is 'about', it could be as much as 26 years or as little as 15 years.
This is right for all that is prophesied to happen from the Sixth Seal until the Return. Rev. 8:2, the commencement of the GT, only starts 3.5 years, or 42 months, or 1260 days before the Return. And the reason there is, at that time, a 360 day year is told to us in Isaiah 13:13... the earth shall be moved from her place.... The hit from the billion + ton mass of a CME sunstrike, as prophesied in over 100 detailed Bible passages, will strike the earth a glancing blow. [or nothing would survive] It will speed up our orbit by 5 1/4 days a year.

-Tell us from where in the whole Bible you get that figure of a billion + ton mass of a CME ?
-I remember that you said this will happen during the 6 th seal and will cause the great earthquake among other things ..from there and based on your method of calculation above you say that the sealing of the 144,000 in Revelation 7and the opening of the 7th seal in Revelation 8 will happen approximately 20.8 years after the 6 Th seal events but (it could be as much as 26 years or as little as 15 years)..is that right ?
And we must recalculate the 3 1/2 years before the return of Jesus based on the fact that the hit from the billion + ton mass of a CME sunstrike, will speed up our orbit by 5 1/4 days a year...is that right ?

keras · Jul 1, 2015

Riberra said:
-Tell us from where in the whole Bible you get that figure of a billion + ton mass of a CME ?

ecology.com/earths greatest threat; the sun and its CME's Also plenty of other info if you google Coronal Mass Ejection.
The Bible says 'vast host', Joel 2:2b or 'engulfs the earth in flames', Zephaniah 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7 or 'The Lord has at His bidding one mighty and strong, who as a destroying storm.... will beat down violently upon the earth. Isaiah 28:2. Look at Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-35

Riberra said:
-I remember that you said this will happen during the 6 th seal and will cause the great earthquake among other things ..from there and based on your method of calculation above you say that the sealing of the 144,000 in Revelation 7and the opening of the 7th seal in Revelation 8 will happen approximately 20.8 years after the 6 Th seal events but (it could be as much as 26 years or as little as 15 years)..is that right ?

The formula of 1/48th of one day in heaven equalling 20.8 years is not my theory, its what the Bible tells us. And it's logical.
No, the seventh seal happens soon after the Sixth seal, the time period is from then until the Return.

Riberra said:
And we must recalculate the 3 1/2 years before the return of Jesus based on the fact that the hit from the billion + ton mass of a CME sunstrike, will speed up our orbit by 5 1/4 days a year...is that right ?

No, we don't have to recalculate anything, just believe the time periods as given in Revelation, a year will be 360 days, after the Sixth Seal shaking of the earth, Hebrews 12:26b, Amos 9:5, Isaiah 24:19
Many ancient records prove that a year was originally 360 days, so we will go back to how it was.

If you want, I will post list of 116 Bible prophesies that will be literally fulfilled by a CME. It will be something that the secular survivors will say was just a natural event. But we who study the Prophetic Word will know better.

Riberra · Jul 1, 2015

keras said:
No, we don't have to recalculate anything, just believe the time periods as given in Revelation, a year will be 360 days, after the Sixth Seal shaking of the earth, Hebrews 12:26b, Amos 9:7, Isaiah 24:19
Many ancient records prove that a year was originally 360 days, so we will go back to how it was.

What makes you think that these verses refers to the 6 th seal great eartquake rather that the great earthquake mentioned in Revelation 16:18-20 who obviously is exponentially (100 x ) more violent ?
Isaiah 24:19
19 The earth is utterly broken, the earth is rent asunder, the earth is shaken violently.

Revelation 16:18-20
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

keras · Jul 1, 2015

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Riberra said:
What makes you think that these verses refers to the 6 th seal great eartquake rather that the great earthquake mentioned in Revelation 16:18-20 who obviously is exponentially (100 x ) more violent ?
Isaiah 24:19
19 The earth is utterly broken, the earth is rent asunder, the earth is shaken violently.

Isaiah 24 is obviously a worldwide prophecy, it is another description of the Sixth Seal - v 4 whole world dries up....v 6 the inhabitants dwindle... v 18b the earths foundations shake....
Whereas Revelation 16:17-21, that comes later, is about Babylon, that is: a Babylon type and a terrible earthquake destroys them, but not fire this time, only giant hailstones. Cosmic events aren't mentioned here.

The Sixth Seal is the whole deal, the sun seven times brighter: Isaiah 30:26 and the moon as bright as the sun and bright red: Acts 2:20, the atmosphere pushed aside: rolled up like a scroll, tectonic plate movement: Amos 9:5, burning: Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, tsunamis: Jeremiah 51:42, deaths worldwide: Jeremiah 25:33, Psalms 37:20

Straightshot · Jul 1, 2015

My comments

Study on .... I see some bright spots in the above recent posts with regard to the coming tribulation

.... even RB's contribution, the exegetical sequence is correct .... the exception would be the idea of the little horn as Jewish Messiah type .... this "Assyrian" will be of the Muslim theater, and he will not be in place of Jesus Christ, but violently against the Lord .... and he will make this very clear to the world [Revelation 13:1-6]

He will openly hate Israel and make no bones about this, and He will set out to destroy the tiny nation

The short silence ... just a pause .... the silence before the tornado .... enough to seal the 144000 of Israel [not the church of today]

And yes, the Lord addresses Satan as "gog" in Ezekiel 38, [Ezekiel 38:17]

.... the one who will use the same beast of Revelation in the little horn of Daniel's visions at Armageddon

Satan's entire ploy will fail and all of his mustering [magog] will be destroyed and buried

Then after the Lord's 1000 year millennial kingdom .... "gog" will instigate another human rebellion of the nations [magog] of the millennial kingdom

.... and the Lord will quickly destroy them with fire

Very different outcome than at Armageddon ... no bird food, no clean up by Israel necessary

And Satan will be destroyed forever .... unlike his fate at Armageddon

Riberra · Jul 1, 2015

Straightshot said:
My comments

Study on .... I see some bright spots in the above recent posts with regard to the coming tribulation

.... even RB's contribution, the exegetical sequence is correct .... the exception would be the idea of the little horn as Jewish Messiah type .... this "Assyrian" will be of the Muslim theater,

The "Assyrian" is a reference to when Satan/Lucifer the Beast was King of Babylon (Satanic possession).Also notice Babylon the Great mentioned in Revelation...Satan/Lucifer/ The "Assyrian" beast returning back as King before the End time. see Isaiah 14: 4-12...25-26...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+14&version=KJV

Straightshot said:
and he will not be in place of Jesus Christ, but violently against the Lord .... and he will make this very clear to the world [Revelation 13:1-6]He will openly hate Israel and make no bones about this, and He will set out to destroy the tiny nation

That is when the Beast (Satan)will take possession of the Little Horn/AC that his true nature and intentions will be shown in plain light (the man of sin be revealed)... before that time the AC/Little Horn will appear on the world scene as a great defender of the cause of Israel.

Straightshot said:
The short silence ... just a pause .... the silence before the tornado .... enough to seal the 144000 of Israel [not the church of today]

The sealed 144000 will be from the 12 tribes of Israel actually dispersed around the Earth.But it can be possible that some of them will even come from the actual sinful State of Israel if they correspond to the description -(They are the first fruits this sound like a Church description)they serve God and are male virgins ...

Straightshot said:
And yes, the Lord addresses Satan as "gog" in Ezekiel 38, [Ezekiel 38:17]

.... the one who will use the same beast of Revelation in the little horn of Daniel's visions at Armageddon

Satan's entire ploy will fail and all of his mustering [magog] will be destroyed and buried

Then after the Lord's 1000 year millennial kingdom .... "gog" will instigate another human rebellion of the nations [magog] of the millennial kingdom

.... and the Lord will quickly destroy them with fire

Very different outcome than at Armageddon ... no bird food, no clean up by Israel necessary

And Satan will be destroyed forever .... unlike his fate at Armageddon

Agreed !

Straightshot · Jul 1, 2015

"before that time the AC/Little Horn will appear on the world scenes as a great defender of the cause of Israel."

What scriptures do you site for this above? I see none

The 1440000 will be of the children of Israel .... the first mortal believers of the tribulation at the onset and must be sealed for protection during their service [Revelation 12;17]

There are a large number of the scattered 10 tribes in Israel today, and even then a portion of the 144000 could be mustered from those who reside in other nations

I would also suggest that the "Assyrian" in Micah 5 will be the human little horn of Daniel's visions who will lead the theater of the populations of today's Muslims

This modern day Caliph will be fully possessed by Satan's beast from the abyss ..... another fallen angel like Satan who has done and will do Satan's bidding on the earth over the 7 middle Eastern kingdoms ..... 5 have fallen, and 2 are still pending .... the first smaller, and the next expanded/divided with 10 other kings [horns] [Revelation 9:11; 11:2; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]

This particular angel king of the abyss [Abaddon/Apollyon] ruled over the human king positions of the 5 fallen and then was sent to the abyss [no longer able to influence human kings]

This one will be released by Satan at the inception of the tribuation where he will seek to rule over the Middle East again .... and the Assyrian little horn will be his possession

When humans see this combination [infusion], they will be astonished at his presence .... a thing that no human has ever seen before .... he will wield the very powers of Satan and no human invention will prohibit his ambitions

He is Satan's "antichrist" who will be a destroyer from the get go

Think about these things and search the related scriptures for understanding

Riberra · Jul 1, 2015

Straightshot said:
"before that time the AC/Little Horn will appear on the world scenes as a great defender of the cause of Israel."

What scriptures do you site for this above? I see none

Daniel 7:8 tell us that the AC/Little Horn will appear on the world scene saying great things ... he will make a peace agreement with Israel and many nations/that will make the world claiming peace and safery... That does not sounds like the AC/Little horn is invading Israel with the Muslims Caliphate of the ISIS group.

Daniel 7:8
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another horn, a little one, before which three of the first horns were plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Straightshot said:
The 1440000 will be of the children of Israel .... the first mortal believers of the tribulation at the onset and must be sealed for protection during their service [Revelation 12;17]

Revelation 14 describe them not Revelation 12:17...

Revelation 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

Straightshot · Jul 1, 2015

"The 1440000 will be of the children of Israel .... the first mortal believers of the tribulation at the onset and must be sealed for protection during their service [Revelation 12;17]:

Yes they are described in 7:1-8; 14:1-7 .... I posted the reference in error .... it should have been posted as a reference about the others of Israel still living in the nations at the time [Revelation 12:17]

Thanks for the correction

"These were redeemed from among men,being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."

They will be the first mortal believers saved of the tribulation, and they will take the gospel of the Lord's coming millennial kingdom upon the earth, first to Israel, and then to the nations [Matthew 24:14; Revelation 14:6-7]

They are virgins because they will not be spiritually defiled by women as were their Israelite ancestors like Solomon who was enticed into idolatry and the worship of foreign [pagan] "gods"

keras · Jul 1, 2015

Interesting comments, but we have gone past the Sixth Seal somewhat.
My focus is the next prophesied event, which will be the Sixth Seal, Day of the Lord's wrath. It will be triggered by the commencement of an attack on Israel by a confederation of Islamic entities. Supported by Iran, with nuke missiles.
They will all be wiped out by a massive sunstrike instigated by the Lord, their weapons will recoil upon their own heads. Psalms 7:12-15, Obadiah 1:15, Habakkuk 3:14
This will fulfil Deuteronomy 32:43....He will punish those who hate Him and cleanse His peoples Land.

Straightshot · Jul 1, 2015

The Day of the Lord will begin at the onset of the 70th week decreed for Israel

But just before, He will call His true ecclesia

Then the short silence just before the tribulation begins .... the 144,000 must be sealed for protection, and then Revelation 6:12-17 .... Revelation 8 [the quake is the same in both]

This beginning will be triggered by the destruction of the "great city" of MBG .... the first judgment of the tribulation [Revelation 8:6-12; 14:8]

Israel will not be invaded by Satan's beast in the human little horn [Caliph] until the middle of the 70th week .... first this one must confederate his Middle Eastern kingdom and destroy the "great city" [Revelation 18:16-18]

The battle of Armageddon will include some sort of possible burning [Ezekiel 38; Zechariah 14] upon the little horn and Muslim his followers

Riberra · Jul 1, 2015

Straightshot said:
The Day of the Lord will begin at the onset of the 70th week decreed for Israel

But just before, He will call His true ecclesia

You are making a big mistake into thinking that the 70 weeks of Daniel were not totally completed in the allowed time of 490 years. Israel have refused the new covenant with Jesus their appointed Messiah....There is no 69 th week still pending.

Jeremiah 30 see key words in verse 36

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

The Old Testament makes it abundantly clear that Israels favor with Jehovah, even under the Mosaic regime, was conditional.
And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of Jehovah thy God, to observe to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that Jehovah thy God will set thee on high above all the nations of the earth (Deuteronomy 28:1).
The Hebrews were constantly warned of the consequences of disobedience (cf. 28:15ff). They could be disinherited as a nation (Numbers 14:12) and disfranchised of their land (Joshua 23:13,16). The truth is, there are about as many Old Testament warnings to Israel as there are promises!

Israel in the Divine plan

A balanced study of the nation of Israel must include at least four elements: the selection, testing, rejection, and replacement of the Jewish people.

Selection

Almost 2000 years before the birth of Christ, Jehovah selected Abraham to be the founder of a new nation. It was declared that through him a seed would come by whom all peoples of the earth would be blessed (cf. Genesis 12:1-3; 22:17-18). Several centuries later, Abrahams offspring were delivered from an era of bondage in Egypt. They were given a special law and ritualistic system of worship which were designed to separate them from the other nations of the world (Exodus 19:5-6; cf. Ephesians 2:14). All of this, of course, was in view of the coming Messiah (cf. Galatians 3:24-25; Hebrews 9:1-10).

Testing

For some 1500 years the Lord God attempted to cultivate the nation of Israel in preparation for the first advent of the Lord Jesus. It was a constant struggle to get the Hebrews to maintain a semblance of fidelity. They grossly violated the law, frequently went after strange gods, and they viciously persecuted the prophets that Jehovah sent to call them to repentance. Jeremiah summarized the history of the Israelite people when he charged that they did nothing of all that Jehovah commanded them (32:23).

Rejection

Because of the accelerating rebellion of the nation, consummated by the murder of Jesus Christ, God rejected the Hebrew people. Inexcusably, the Jews rejected their own Messiah; accordingly, Jehovah repudiated that nation and determined to scatter them as dust (Matthew 21:44). Thus, in the providence of God, the Roman armies came against Palestine in A.D. 70, and Judaism was destroyed (cf. Matthew 22:7; 24:1-34); the Jewish vessel was smashed, and it cannot be put back together (cf. Jeremiah 19:11). According to Josephus, some 1.1 million Hebrews were slaughtered, and thousands were taken into slavery. All Jewish records were lost in that holocaust. Today, there is not a single Jew who knows his tribal ancestry (McClintock and Strong 1969, 771). The physical nation of Israel is dead. The Jews that make up the State of Israel today (less than 25 percent of the world Jewish population) cannot legitimately be called a nation.
Replacement

As a consequence of Israels rejection of the Messiah, God has replaced physical Israel with a new nation, spiritual Israel. Today, the Jew is not one who is so physically, but one who is so inwardly, i.e., spiritually (Romans 2:28-29). In this age, those who submit to the gospel plan of redemptionwhether Jew or Gentile (Romans 1:16)become children of God, and thus are constituted as the true seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:26-29).

Straightshot · Jul 1, 2015

Well I do not agree with you as you already know

Israel has returned in unbelief, but when the 70th week decreed for Daniel's people Israel comes [not for the church of today] this is going to change, and a remnant part will turn .... there are many scriptures that verify this rendering hands down

Here are just 3 [Jeremiah 30; Ezekiel 36; Micah 5] .... this explains it all in the Lord's own words

The replacement theology as you seem to hold is a ruse in my opinion and for many reasons verified by scripture on the matter

Riberra · Jul 1, 2015

Straightshot said:
Well I do not agree with you as you already know

Israel has returned in unbelief, but when the 70th week decreed for Daniel's people Israel comes [not for the church of today] this is going to change, and a remnant part will turn .... there are many scriptures that verify this rendering hands down

Here are just 3 [Jeremiah 30; Ezekiel 36; Micah 5] .... this explains it all in the Lord's own words

The replacement theology as you seem to hold is a ruse in my opinion and for many reasons verified by scripture on the matter

And a remnant part will turn only when they will see Jesus coming in glory at the end of the great tribulation. This is only at this moment that they will be gathered back to Israel.The 1948 gathering in Israel is only a parody of the true gathering that only Jesus will make at His second coming Parousia.

The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

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