Some Apostle told another 2 keep it simple 4 the easily confused (gentiles) Something about the golden rule;love one another & don't eat McDonald burgers sacrificed 2 idols.Anybody else read that ??
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To all: what would you hope to find amongst a group of Christians, or in a "church" ?
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I get disturbed by it, but I kind of like it a bit messy, like home.
Take this forum, I would definitely not swap it for church, too many opinions and some to the point of ridiculous, but I come here because there is opportunity, though I would have to say I have not seen one believe through debate, particularly when that debate is so full of random speeches, spoken only to distract and confuse and actually serves no other purpose.
But my faith is not in debate, or even the opportunity to speak the truth of God, who is Jesus; my faith is in God himself and his promises to save to the utmost. My focus is on the probability of Jesus' sacrifice to save and not on your ability to make a choice, though you must make one.
When I come here I come for the opportunity to share the gospel with you. If you receive it well and good. If not my heart is broken but the loss is yours.
Take this forum, I would definitely not swap it for church, too many opinions and some to the point of ridiculous, but I come here because there is opportunity, though I would have to say I have not seen one believe through debate, particularly when that debate is so full of random speeches, spoken only to distract and confuse and actually serves no other purpose.
But my faith is not in debate, or even the opportunity to speak the truth of God, who is Jesus; my faith is in God himself and his promises to save to the utmost. My focus is on the probability of Jesus' sacrifice to save and not on your ability to make a choice, though you must make one.
When I come here I come for the opportunity to share the gospel with you. If you receive it well and good. If not my heart is broken but the loss is yours.
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Mysticism, aesthetics, statues and portraits of martyred saints in heavenly agony, modern architecture/technology.
At least that's what I wanted as a child, and I never got it. *pouts* Lol.
Well except for the modern architecture and technology part..
Not necessarily healthy, and never the type of environment I'd raise a family under, but I can't really think of anything that would fulfill me more than that.
At least that's what I wanted as a child, and I never got it. *pouts* Lol.
Well except for the modern architecture and technology part..
Not necessarily healthy, and never the type of environment I'd raise a family under, but I can't really think of anything that would fulfill me more than that.
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I would like to see two things for starters:
1 Corinthians 13 and Matthew 25:31-46 lived out.
I'd like to see no political baloney.
I'd like to see people truly understand the cultural and historical context of the bible.
I'd like to see people understand that taking certain positions and wanting to impose them on the rest of the population is not WWJD.
I realize I will never find a community of Christians that would fit my requirements, so that is why I won't be "joining" any community. I've discovered those who scream loudest about being a Christian really aren't. They're just as nasty and hateful as the rest of us unwashed heathens...maybe more...they use the excuse they're "saved" and/or "forgiven". Sorry...you can say that all you want, and attempt to judge me but we'll both face the same judge someday. Personally, I doubt seriously I'll make it to any reward in the afterlife...but I'm sure I'll have a lot of company.
1 Corinthians 13 and Matthew 25:31-46 lived out.
I'd like to see no political baloney.
I'd like to see people truly understand the cultural and historical context of the bible.
I'd like to see people understand that taking certain positions and wanting to impose them on the rest of the population is not WWJD.
I realize I will never find a community of Christians that would fit my requirements, so that is why I won't be "joining" any community. I've discovered those who scream loudest about being a Christian really aren't. They're just as nasty and hateful as the rest of us unwashed heathens...maybe more...they use the excuse they're "saved" and/or "forgiven". Sorry...you can say that all you want, and attempt to judge me but we'll both face the same judge someday. Personally, I doubt seriously I'll make it to any reward in the afterlife...but I'm sure I'll have a lot of company.
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If only we could live up to the standards we set for others!
You are correct, but why should I judge you? I am not here to judge. Nasty? Hateful? I am truly sorry if I have appeared so, it is very wrong of me. Personally, I don't want you doubting that you have everlasting life when it is so easy to accomplish. Although it is unlikely by your confession that you will enjoy my company I do truly hope that you will change your mind [repentance is the true mark of faith] and that we may enjoy Christ together in eternity.
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I don't think "salvation" is as easy to obtain as you claim it is...
regarding the "standards"...how do you know I don't live in accordance with the scriptures I quoted? Oh, probably because I'm a liberal, feminist, childless, educated career woman who refuses to check my brain at the door.
I don't "belong" to any church anymore...not after the last bible study group I walked out of before I punched some idiot broad who was spewing the most un-charitable rubbish I'd ever heard inside a church. I haven't darkened the door of a church for a service in months. I prefer to spend my free time making a difference in the community instead of sitting inside some expensive building.
I'll keep to my cussing, smoking, dancing, metal-music ways and go make a difference OUTSIDE some building. I don't do it in hopes of some reward after I'm dead. I don't give two hoots and a holler about that...I can't take what I have with me when I assume room temperature. Might as well give it away now.
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Two things come to mind:
Bonhoeffer's warning that Christians spend entirely too much time dwelling on their pipe dreams of how church ought to be instead of being and doing church.
C.S. Lewis in the Screwtape Letters wherein Screwtape is commanded to whisper in the ears of parishioners to judge and complain and be distracted by the petty problems around them instead of actually being and doing church.
Third thought: "Oh how lovely it would be if my spouse could be all the ideal things that I believe they ought to be, then maybe this marriage could work."
The Church is not the social club of God's finest.
She is the clinic of the Good Physician in the slums giving rest to the diseased, the frail, the broken and the reject.
Christ did not come for the righteous, but for sinners. He did not come for the well, but the sick. Christ instituted a Church of sinners, for sinners.
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Bonhoeffer's warning that Christians spend entirely too much time dwelling on their pipe dreams of how church ought to be instead of being and doing church.
C.S. Lewis in the Screwtape Letters wherein Screwtape is commanded to whisper in the ears of parishioners to judge and complain and be distracted by the petty problems around them instead of actually being and doing church.
Third thought: "Oh how lovely it would be if my spouse could be all the ideal things that I believe they ought to be, then maybe this marriage could work."
The Church is not the social club of God's finest.
She is the clinic of the Good Physician in the slums giving rest to the diseased, the frail, the broken and the reject.
Christ did not come for the righteous, but for sinners. He did not come for the well, but the sick. Christ instituted a Church of sinners, for sinners.
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I preach to prisoners for free. I help a lady with her rent every month because she is a Christian lady who is trying to keep a roof over her children's heads. I also evangelize every Friday and give a bible study to two ladies at their homes. There are Christians who don't care for fanfare, who enjoy helping others, who walk the talk. They are not always so obvious to spot. They don't worry about how other Christians behave, they don't worry much about anything really, but they do keep their eyes focused on Christ. Knowledge of the scriptures is key... show yourself approved. "Believing comes thru hearing and hearing the word of Christ"
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Would you help the lady if she wasn't a Christian? Why do you have to "evangelize" and give bible studies?
What I do is not predicated on someone being a "Christian" or not...I see ALL human beings as having intrinsic worth as they are ALL made in the image and likeness of the Creator. Most of the folks I hang out with are NOT Christians. They're homeless, addicts, gay. The projects I work on are not predicated on "Christian" or not. I don't care. In reality, I've turned down "Christians" who wanted me to do certain projects...mostly because they would come to my business and expect something for nothing. Its one thing to do freelance volunteer projects and quite another when some "Christian" would want to hire my business for something then refuse to pay or think that I should discount my fees because they're such "godly" people. (Yes, that has happened to me).
What I do is not predicated on someone being a "Christian" or not...I see ALL human beings as having intrinsic worth as they are ALL made in the image and likeness of the Creator. Most of the folks I hang out with are NOT Christians. They're homeless, addicts, gay. The projects I work on are not predicated on "Christian" or not. I don't care. In reality, I've turned down "Christians" who wanted me to do certain projects...mostly because they would come to my business and expect something for nothing. Its one thing to do freelance volunteer projects and quite another when some "Christian" would want to hire my business for something then refuse to pay or think that I should discount my fees because they're such "godly" people. (Yes, that has happened to me).
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I think you took me wrong. How do I know you don't live by the standards you mentioned? I don't, but you suggested that you don't. Now you tell me you're political "liberal, feminist, educated career woman who refuses to check her brain at the door."
Check your list of standards.
I am sorry you find me chauvinistic mLady. I'm not in a position to change your mind, and you obviously don't want to, so I guess I'll have to be tagged with your opinion of me. Perhaps one day we can be friends. I don't mind heavy metal in the music but I hate depressing lyrics, and they're usually so political. Anyway, let's avoid that.
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love based faith is truer than fear based faith
You have to be more specific in your question. Like would i help a muslim? The answer: thousands upon thousands of christians and non-christians have been subjugated to acts of terror and killed in the name of islam. Should i spit in the face of those people and give aid to someone who follows the political/ religious ideology of islam. Would a jew give aid to a nazi in WWII?
What does one person taking advantage of another matter in the grand scope of things. Its up to just you to keep focused on Christ. The activities of other people, whether professing christianity or not, does not matter.
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So you can both repent for disobeying the scripture; i repent for not being able to fulfill his word and im forgiven everytime.
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PS, i love being able to make positive comments on bahai and islam in CF sections where non-christians are prohibited. Have you seen some of those?
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PS, i love being able to make positive comments on bahai and islam in CF sections where non-christians are prohibited. Have you seen some of those?
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