Creating an ideal world for conservative Christians

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Hi. I'm a sci-fi author trying to create a fictional, ideal future world for conservative Christians, including Baptists. I checked out the sci-fi forum and it receives virtually no traffic, so I thought I would post here. Depending on how the story unfolds, I may expand the inhabitants to include other Christians as well, since that will create more religious diversity, which should help propel the story.

The world in question is a planet called New Bethlehem, which was settled by conservative Christians so they could practice their deep faith in peace among like-minded individuals. For the purposes of the story, there is a democratic senate and a hereditary monarchy that traces its origins all the back to King David.

One of the lead characters in the story is Joseph, the crown prince of New Bethlehem. He began hearing the voice of God in his head at age 4. At the time, his mother told him it was just dreams or an imaginary friend. Eventually, Joseph learned to stop talking about it. Joseph learns of mental illness while growing up, but dismisses it as a possibility. He is convinced that the God he talks to is the same one who spoke to Moses and Noah.

So, he spends 12 years talking to God every day. Then, at age 16, his life begins to unravel. God asks him to give up his intended destiny (the throne of New Bethlehem) and do something unthinkable - create a new religion to save an increasingly violent galaxy from the Apocalypse. This new religion is intended to sweep the galaxy like a tidal wave, toppling kings, queens, and emperors, and lead all mankind back to paradise. The bad news is, this new religion upends many of Joseph's deeply held Christian beliefs.

Joseph is now in a virtually impossible position. He can reject the voice in his head as never having been real, ascend to the throne, and live out a life in relative peace, trusting that the real God will take care of the galaxy. Or, he can give up the throne and follow this voice on a quest that eventually leads him into slavery, prison and unimaginable personal loss. He's a future version of Job.

In the first two drafts of my book, Joseph is religious, able to quote chapter and verse as well as anyone, but I don't think he represents conservative Christianity properly. Next draft, I want convservative values to seep deep into his bones. I also plan to make him a deeply closeted, self-loathing homosexual. It's just one more burden for him to carry and overcome.

New Bethlehem will have a Christian government (i.e., no separation of church and state). And although the planet is intended to reflect ideal conservative values, it will not be an entirely perfect world, since humans are not perfect beings.

I have a number of questions about what such a society would look like. If anyone is willing to help me, please respond to this thread, and I'll begin posting questions.

Your help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
Norm
 

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Take a look at the history of American areas settled by the Pilgrims for some ideas of how this worked out in real life. They very quickly had to deal with the problem of children who weren't as convinced as their parents. Hence they had to decide whether and how to change standards so that they didn't disenfranchise much of the next generation from government.
 
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Hi. I'm a sci-fi author trying to create a fictional, ideal future world for conservative Christians, including Baptists. I checked out the sci-fi forum and it receives virtually no traffic, so I thought I would post here. Depending on how the story unfolds, I may expand the inhabitants to include other Christians as well, since that will create more religious diversity, which should help propel the story.

The world in question is a planet called New Bethlehem, which was settled by conservative Christians so they could practice their deep faith in peace among like-minded individuals. For the purposes of the story, there is a democratic senate and a hereditary monarchy that traces its origins all the back to King David.

One of the lead characters in the story is Joseph, the crown prince of New Bethlehem. He began hearing the voice of God in his head at age 4. At the time, his mother told him it was just dreams or an imaginary friend. Eventually, Joseph learned to stop talking about it. Joseph learns of mental illness while growing up, but dismisses it as a possibility. He is convinced that the God he talks to is the same one who spoke to Moses and Noah.

So, he spends 12 years talking to God every day. Then, at age 16, his life begins to unravel. God asks him to give up his intended destiny (the throne of New Bethlehem) and do something unthinkable - create a new religion to save an increasingly violent galaxy from the Apocalypse. This new religion is intended to sweep the galaxy like a tidal wave, toppling kings, queens, and emperors, and lead all mankind back to paradise. The bad news is, this new religion upends many of Joseph's deeply held Christian beliefs.

Joseph is now in a virtually impossible position. He can reject the voice in his head as never having been real, ascend to the throne, and live out a life in relative peace, trusting that the real God will take care of the galaxy. Or, he can give up the throne and follow this voice on a quest that eventually leads him into slavery, prison and unimaginable personal loss. He's a future version of Job.

In the first two drafts of my book, Joseph is religious, able to quote chapter and verse as well as anyone, but I don't think he represents conservative Christianity properly. Next draft, I want convservative values to seep deep into his bones. I also plan to make him a deeply closeted, self-loathing homosexual. It's just one more burden for him to carry and overcome.

New Bethlehem will have a Christian government (i.e., no separation of church and state). And although the planet is intended to reflect ideal conservative values, it will not be an entirely perfect world, since humans are not perfect beings.

I have a number of questions about what such a society would look like. If anyone is willing to help me, please respond to this thread, and I'll begin posting questions.

Your help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
Norm


Why not make it a world where all conservative Christians are beheaded in order to end wars caused by religion? Also make sure that all Jews are beheaded.
I don't see the science fiction world you are trying to create as any different than the world we are in now. Jesus is going to fix it all one day, and heaven will be populated with nothing but morally perfect Conservative Christians and angels, while Hell will be populated with people who tried to make their own world In rebellion against God's moral standard. I'm sure you are a Christian, and because of that I know that if you go to Heaven tomorrow, saved from Hell forever, you will be a Conservative Christian there. God wants us all to be Conservative Christians. You can read all about it throughout His word.
 
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The baptists would tell him the gospel and if he starts quoting verses and other scriptures and teaching some weird doctrine show him where he might be going wrong. Also theyd be praying for him, and if. He confesses leanings toward homosexuality keep continuing to pray for him, that he repent when he finds that isnt what God wants.
 
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Why not make it a world where all conservative Christians are beheaded in order to end wars caused by religion? Also make sure that all Jews are beheaded.
I can't tell if you're a conservative Christian being sarcastic, or a non-conservative with an axe to grind. If I had to guess, I'd say the latter.

I don't see the science fiction world you are trying to create as any different than the world we are in now.
Christian Conservatives might beg to differ. I think they see our world going to Hell all around them. I intentionally chose conservatives because the new religion Joseph has been tasked to create upends many of his deeply held beliefs. The more conservative the character to begin with, the harder it will be for him to perform this task.

Jesus is going to fix it all one day, and heaven will be populated with nothing but morally perfect Conservative Christians and angels, while Hell will be populated with people who tried to make their own world In rebellion against God's moral standard.
Okay, here it's possible you're being serious. If Heaven is just for conservative Christians, I could be in trouble.

I'm sure you are a Christian
If I wrote a book on dog food, would you assume I was dog food? It's always possible that I'm a bipolar atheist who slipped off his meds.

I'm sure you are a Christian, and because of that I know that if you go to Heaven tomorrow, saved from Hell forever, you will be a Conservative Christian there.
I refer you back to my previous answer about the meds.

God wants us all to be Conservative Christians. You can read all about it throughout His word.
See now, here I could think you're being serious again.

Hit me back if you want to chat some more. I'm procrastinating writing right now, so a good discussion would be welcome. If it's outside forum rules, I'm sure we can find some place for the discussion.

Norm
 
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