"Behold, I COME QUICKLY"! (Revelations 3:11, 22:7,12,20)

ditto

I think that covers all the Scriptures you had questions about.

God bless you as you seek Him.
In Christ, Ted
Sadly, it is quite obvious that you have never "received a love of The TRUTH so that you might be saved" from your own self("I", ego, id, pride)! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-must-die.html

So it is you are bound in the chains of "strong delusion" as you but serve time in the prison that IS this evil world and/or religion's way.

Yet while breath(spirit, air) is, Hope IS!

For TRUTH IS! and Miracles do happen.......
 
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Sadly, it is quite obvious that you have never "received a love of The TRUTH so that you might be saved" from your own self("I", ego, id, pride)! (II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-must-die.html

So it is you are bound in the chains of "strong delusion" as you but serve time in the prison that IS this evil world and/or religion's way.

Yet while breath(spirit, air) is, Hope IS!

For TRUTH IS! and Miracles do happen.......

Hi francus,

Blessedly, you are not the judge. Whether or not one or the other of us needs to be saved from ourselves is going to depend on which one of us knows the truth. I'm confident that you are likewise confident that I am bound in 'chains of strong delusion' because I am not in agreement with you that Jesus has already come. That's OK with me. It isn't your truth that I seek, but God's, and His only. Yes! Truth is and miracles do happen.

God bless you as you seek for Him.
In Christ, Ted
 
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Hi francus,

Blessedly, you are not the judge. Whether or not one or the other of us needs to be saved from ourselves is going to depend on which one of us knows the truth. I'm confident that you are likewise confident that I am bound in 'chains of strong delusion' because I am not in agreement with you that Jesus has already come. That's OK with me. It isn't your truth that I seek, but God's, and His only. Yes! Truth is and miracles do happen.

God bless you as you seek for Him.
In Christ, Ted
i appreciated the tenor of your post.

Yet i am no longer a "seeker for Him", for "i was lost but now am found, was blind but now i see", yet i evermore "grow in Grace and in the knowledge of Immanuel The Messiah and Our FATHER and GOD"!

Have you seen "The Light"?

Unless one has receives "a love of The TRUTH", Yes! more than their own life, they yet abide in the blackness of darkness that is of this evil world and/or religion's way.......

"The Word of Our FATHER and GOD"....... "Let There Be Light"! (Genesis 1:3)

"Our FATHER and GOD(HE WHO IS LIGHT)" spoke The Word "Let There Be Light!", and "there was Light"! (I John 1:5, Genesis 1:3)

"And The Word(logos) became flesh and dwelt among us"! (John 1:14)

The Messiah, Immanuel(GOD{SPIRIT} with us IN The Messiah), He IS "The Word(logos) of Our FATHER and GOD(HE WHO IS LIGHT)"! (I John 1:5)

The Messiah, "The Light of the world"! (John 1:9; 8:12)

The Messiah, "The Beginning of The Creation of Our FATHER and GOD"! (Revelations 3:14)

The Messiah, "The Firstborn of ALL Creation"! (Colossians 1:15)

The "Light", "The glory The Messiah had with Our FATHER and GOD before the world began"! (John 17:5)

TRUTH IS! "LIGHT Begot Light"....... (Genesis 1:3, I John 1:5)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-there-be-light.html

Yet the worldly and/or religious ones, liken unto the pharisee's of old, have not "seen The Light" that is The Messiah, and so it is they yet abide in the darkness that is of this evil world and/or religion's way! (John 3:19; 7:7; 8:12, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 4:1-4)

Simply, they have never REALized what "Pure Religion and Undefiled" IS! (James 1:27)

For "Pure Religion and Undefiled" is not a system but the Active Faith of those who have been "Born Again" of The Holy, Set Apart, SPIRIT! Those "sons of Our FATHER and GOD" who have their portion !NOW! in HIS Family, of "WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named".......(John 3:3,7, I Peter 1:23, I John 3:1-2, Philippians 2:15, Ephesians 3:15)

"A Household of Faith" indeed and TRUTH! (Galatians 6:10, Ephesians 2:19)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2008/10/pure-and-undefiled-religion.html

Simply, ALL other religion IS "IMPURE and DEFILED"!

And Yes! Atheism (self-worship) is a religion as well, for atheists see their version of a god ("I", id, ego, self, pride) each and every time they view their reflected "image"!

Yet because of pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters, and their "imag"ined 'jesus', "The Way of TRUTH is evil spoken of"! (II Peter 2:1-3)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2013/08/who-is-this-pagan-catholic-and.html

"Come out from among them and be separate!" (II Corinthians 6:17)

ALL religion.......

Seek and desire to have your portion with The Messiah IN and OF “The LIGHT" that IS “Our FATHER and GOD”! (Acts 26:18, I John 1:5)

“Children of LIGHT” who have received "a love of The TRUTH so that they might be saved" from their own ("I",ego,id,pride) self! (Luke 16:8, John 12:36, Ephesians 5:8, I Thessalonians 5:5, II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-1st-day-of-creation-genesis-11-5.html

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2010/08/let-there-be-light-john-11-5.html

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-1st-day-of-new-creation.html

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2011/08/messiah-true-light-which-enlightens.html

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2013/05/one-needs-receive-love-of-truth-to-be.html

Once again, "Our FATHER and GOD" spoke HIS Word into being, ""Let There Be Light!", and there was Light"....... (Genesis 1:3)

And Immanuel, (GOD{SPIRIT} with us IN) The Messiah, testified "I am The Light of the world!" (John 8:12)

"He that believes The Messiah, Immanuel, is not condemned, but he that believes Him not is condemned already, because he has not believed in The Name of the Only Begotten (Spiritually and in "the likeness of sinful flesh") Son of Our FATHER and GOD." (Genesis 1:3, John 3:18)

And "Joshua" is the right and proper natural birth (in the likeness of sinful flesh) name for The Messiah in today's english, for He and Joshua (Yahshua) of the old covenant were given the same Hebrew birth name! (Romans 8:3)

Sadly, the "imag"ined name of 'jesus' is but the transliteration of the pagan latin catholic name 'iesus'. A name pagan catholicism and her #1 harlot christian daughter (the aptly named "church OF england") gave to one head of their "imag"ined three headed pagan god(s) less than 600 years ago!

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2011/08/name-of-messiah.html

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2011/12/who-is-author-of-confusion.html

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2013/08/who-is-this-pagan-catholic-and.html

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-there-name-or-title-greater-than.html

John 3:18-21 - "And this is the condemnation, that The Light (destined to be The Messiah) has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than The Light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that does evil hates The Light, neither comes to The Light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that does TRUTH comes to The Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in Our FATHER and GOD." (John 3:18-21, II Thessalonians 2:10-13)

The Messiah, Immanuel, "The Light that enlightens every man born into the world"! (John 1:9)

And "Our FATHER and GOD", HE IS LIGHT! And The One HE Anointed (aka: The Messiah), was HIS First and Only Begotten Son, "The Beginning of The Creation of Our FATHER and GOD"! (I John 1:5, Colossians 1:15, Revelations 3:14)

"LIGHT Begot Light"! (Genesis 1:3)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2010/06/let-there-be-light.html

"And you at one time abode in darkness, but now are you Light with The Messiah, Immanuel! Walk as children of LIGHT(Our FATHER and GOD)!" (Ephesians 5:8, John 12:36, 1 Thessalonians 5:5)

Seek and desire to have your portion !NOW! with The Messiah in The Family of LIGHT!

Which IS "The Family of Our FATHER and GOD", "of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named"! (Ephesians 3:15)
"A Household of Faith" indeed and TRUTH....... (Galatians 6:10, Ephesians 2:19)

And NEW "Jerusalem which IS above IS Free, and IS !NOW! the mother of us all (children of Our FATHER and GOD, children of LIGHT)"! (Galatians 4:26, Luke 16:8, John 12:36, Ephesians 5:8, I Thessalonians 5:5)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2011/07/family-of-faith-or-system-of-religion.html

So it is we choose to remain but "aliens and pilgrims while on the earth" for we have REALized that our "citizenship(Life) IS !NOW! in Heaven"! (I Peter 2:11, Hebrews 11:13, Philippians 3:20, Ephesians 2:19)

So you, if you are a "Born Again son of GOD", let your Light shine, for soon, and very soon, “the children of LIGHT”, those brethren of The Messiah yet on earth, are taken Home, Home at last! (John 3:3,7, I Peter 1:23, John 12:36, Ephesians 5:8, I Thessalonians 5:5, John 14:2-3)

Till then:

HOPE IS! There would be those who would “see” The Light that is The Messiah, Immanuel! (John 8:12)

For TRUTH IS! Unless one see’s "The Light” they are easy prey for the religious ones (those who carry on he legacy of the pharisee’s) who abide in "the darkness that is this evil world"! Those who but carry on the legacy of the pharisee's because they "love their own life in and of this world"! And so it is they are "friends of this evil world"....... (Ephesians 6:12, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, John 12:25; 7:7, Galatians 1:4, James 4:4)

And "whoever is the friend of this world is the enemy of Our FATHER and GOD"! (James 4:1-4)

"Be not like them......." (Matthew 6:8)

"Come out from among them and be separate!" (II Corinthians 6:17)

And as "children of LIGHT" abide in The LIGHT that IS "Our FATHER and GOD"!

Thankfully those who have seen "The LIGHT", have REALized how "poor and in need" of Our FATHER and GOD they truly are, and so it is we "cry unto HIM day and night"! (I John 1:5, Psalms 70:5; 72:13, John 20:17, Luke 18:7)

Evermore sounding and resounding a Declaration of Dependence:

FATHER Help!

HE DID! and HE does......

So Peace IS! in spite of the dis-ease (no-peace) that is of this evil world and/or religion's way....... (John 14:27; 7:7, I John 2:15-17; 5:19, James 1:27; 4:4, Philippians 4:7))

ALL Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our FATHER(TRUTH, CREATOR, GOD, SPIRIT, LORD, MASTER,,,,,,, ALL IN ALL That Which IS Truly GOOD)!
 
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Please address the following testimonies:

"Behold, I COME QUICKLY"! (Revelations 3:11, 22:7,12,20)

And as The Messiah had testified, so it was....... "There were some standing here !NOW! WHO WILL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, until they (SOME OF THOSE THE MESSIAH WAS SPEAKING TOO) had seen The Kingdom of Our FATHER and GOD Come with Power!" (Mark 9:1)

And The Messiah bore witness of His "Coming Again" and "Quickly" when He stood before the "high priest" and testified, "You will see The Son of man sitting on the Right Hand of Power, and coming in the clouds of Heaven"! (Matthew 26:64b)

And James testified, "Therefore be patient brethren, until The Lord's return! Behold, how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for The COMING of The Lord IS AT HAND." (James 4:7-8)

John testified, "Little children, it is the last time! And as you have heard that anti-messiah shall come, even now are there many anti-messiahs, whereby we know that it is the last time(not the end of the world but the end of the old covenant age)"! (I John 2:18)

"And now little children, abide in Him(The Messiah), so that when He shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming"! (I John 2:28)

Paul testified, "YET A LITTLE WHILE! And He (The Messiah) that shall come will come, and will not tarry." (Hebrews 10:37)

And The Messiah DID "Come Again" and "QUICKLY"! (Revelations 3:11, 22:7,12,20)

And Paul testified, "I am in a strait between the two, for I have a desire to depart, and to be with The Messiah, which is far better. Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for all of you. And having that confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of Faith." (Philippians 1:23-25)

For Paul testified, "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE and remain SHALL BE CAUGHT UP together with them (those son's of GOD who had risen from the dead) in the clouds to meet The Messiah in the air, and so shall WE ever be with The Messiah." (I Thessalonians 4:17-18)

And again Paul testified, "I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. And GOD WILL DELIVER ME FROM EVERY EVIL WORK, AND WILL PRESERVE ME UNTO HIS HEAVENLY KINGDOM, to WHOM be GLORY for ever and ever.. Amen (It is so, let it be so)!" (II Timothy 4:17-18)

Such testimony is indicative of Paul yet being alive and taken up "in the clouds to meet The Messiah in the air" when The Messiah DID "Come Again" and "QUICKLY" just as He had prophesied! For at that time of "The END" of the old covenant age "The Messiah DID Come Again in the clouds" when that which was "decaying and waxing old" DID "vanish away" with the destruction of the natural, earthly, temporal temple realm centered in old jerusalem! (Revelations 3:11, Matthew 24:3-14, I Thessalonians 4:18, Hebrew 8:13)

"The second death has no power over those who were taken Home in that First Resurrection", when The Messiah DID "Come Again" and "QUICKLY", just as He prophesied! (Revelations 21:6; 3:11)

And prior to that time of "The END" of the old covenant age, Paul had testified that believers were "translated into The Kingdom of GOD's Dear Son"! (Colossians 1:13)

http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2014/10/and-then-end-will-come-matthew-2414.html

And at that time of "the END" of the old covenant age, "The Messiah delivered up The Kingdom unto Our FATHER and GOD and subjected Himself unto HIM, so that Our FATHER and GOD could once again be ALL IN ALL", just as Paul had prophesied in I Corinthians 15:24!

The Kingdom of Our FATHER and GOD IN Heaven WAS, IS, and ALWAYS WILL BE.......

ALL Thanks And Praise Be Unto Our FATHER and GOD! (John 20:17)

The Messiah had testified, "Behold, I COME QUICKLY! Hold fast that which YOU have, that no man take YOUR crown"! (Revelations 3:11)

"Behold, I COME QUICKLY! Blessed is he that keeps the sayings of the prophecy of this book." (Revelations 22:7)

Behold, I COME QUICKLY! And My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work shall be." (Revelations 22:12)

I will highlight to you that the Lord saying "I come quickly so hold onto your crown before you go off naked", is tied to the thief coming on a day and hour that no one knows.

The Lord also writes that I come as a thief in the night.

I will explain using all your references that you have provided that this is not a message to only the 1st century church but is also to all workmen of God's vineyard who come throughout the generations in the great commission to spread the gospel message into all the world and as the Lord said, then the end will come.

So let us start with all your references and link all of them to this meaning to why the Lord said I come quickly:

Let us look at these symbolic meanings:

Thief = death
Night/midnight = 12th hour
Earthly house = body

All your references are in context to the Lord's appearing to that particular servant when his day and hour comes, meaning they are taken out of God's vineyard by the thief (death) who destroyes their earthly house on a day and hour they know not, then the coming of the Lord will be for that departed person.

Life being so fragile and at any moment we can be taken out by the thief, so the Lord warns believes to be watchful in faith and to have their lamps trimmed at all times, meaning to keep the faith at all times, so that if death comes suddenly knocking at your door then you are going to come before the Lord for Judgment. So I come quickly is an urgent call to all believers to hold onto their crown least they go off naked into outer darkness without a resurrection garment.

The Lord states it in a better way like so:

Matthew 24:44-51
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The message of the Lord cometh quickly is not conditionally based on the goings on within th natural earthly realm, but rather is related in context to the state of mind and heart of that servant at the point in time where he is taken out of God's vineyard on a day and hour by the thief(death). For that individual the Lord cometh to judge him for the works done in the body. So the statement the Lord cometh quickly is related to the state of mind and heart of a servant to be watchful and live in the light as the thief can snatch you at a moments notice and so have your lamps trimmed at all times and don't be like the evil servant who says in his heart the Lord is not coming for a while, so let us drink and party and when that time comes we will start being good again. This evil servant gets caught out because he doesn't know when death comes knocking on his door on a day and hour that he is not prepared to reconcile his ways with God.

Saint Paul also highlights this call of urgency of the coming/appearing of the Lord as follows:

1 Thessalonians 5:1-10
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not DIE/sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. For they that die/sleep die/sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we alive/wake or dead/sleep, we should live together with him.

This is the central theme of Christianity that we are to be sober/watchful to keep the faith onto the death lest that day cometh quickly upon us like a thief in the night. So the Lord cometh quickly is obviously clear that we can die at a moments notice and be caught up in darkness, thereby failing to be ready to recieve the Lord when he cometh quickly for us.

The next posts I will address all your references, please kindly be patient with me. Thank you.


 
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"Behold, I COME QUICKLY"! (Revelations 3:11, 22:7,12,20)

Rev 3:10-12 is in context to keeping the word of Christ and being faithful, so hold onto your crown and when you do overcome, I will reward you. So this is a question of keeping the faith onto death for that particular individual and has nothing to do with the natural events playing out on earth. In fact the Lord instructs us to ignore earthly goings on and temptations that try to take away our crown and we are to hold onto it until we die.

Rev 22:7 is again in context to holding on to the faith that is contained in the testimony of Jesus Christ. It is a question of faith related to the heart and mind and not to earthly events.

Rev 22:20 again this is related to overcoming by keeping the faith onto death, because a witness of Jesus cannot recieve his reward unless he dies first and comes before the Lord for judgment. This is the condition of the blood covenant stated in Hebrews 9:16-17.


And as The Messiah had testified, so it was....... "There were some standing here !NOW! WHO WILL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, until they (SOME OF THOSE THE MESSIAH WAS SPEAKING TOO) had seen The Kingdom of Our FATHER and GOD Come with Power!" (Mark 9:1)

Jesus is stating that after he rises from the dead and some of those that remain alive to witness this event will not taste spiritual death like their old covenant fathers who had to wait for messiah to raise them from their graves (Matthew 27:52-53) in fulfilment to Ezekiel 37:11-14. Since messiah came and arose then any servant who has the testimony of Jesus will not have to wait anymore to be raised from the dead, they in this case are immediately in a twinkling of an eye are raised into their resurrection bodies. This is why Jesus previously stated hold onto your crown lest you go of naked without a resurrection garment.

And The Messiah bore witness of His "Coming Again" and "Quickly" when He stood before the "high priest" and testified, "You will see The Son of man sitting on the Right Hand of Power, and coming in the clouds of Heaven"! (Matthew 26:64b)

The high priest saw Jesus from then on because as the statement goes all eyes shall see him, the chief priest died after Jesus ascended up on high to sit on the right hand of power as the almighty judge. When the chief priest died he came face to face before the judgment seat of messiah and in that respect he saw him and the priest mourned and was judged as one of the TARES and cast out into outer darkness.

More to come please be patient.
 
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Do not second guess the Lord's "quickness"

When He starts, He moves like a lightening strike [no warning .... and He resultant thunder will roll for a period of 2550 days .... then it will be over, then He will be seen on the earth by the earth dwellers

Make certain that you are ready for the strike .... it could come before this day is over

No not get caught in the rumble
 
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"Behold, I COME QUICKLY"! (Revelations 3:11, 22:7,12,20)

Rev 3:10-12 is in context to keeping the word of Christ and being faithful, so hold onto your crown and when you do overcome, I will reward you. So this is a question of keeping the faith onto death for that particular individual and has nothing to do with the natural events playing out on earth. In fact the Lord instructs us to ignore earthly goings on and temptations that try to take away our crown and we are to hold onto it until we die.

Rev 22:7 is again in context to holding on to the faith that is contained in the testimony of Jesus Christ. It is a question of faith related to the heart and mind and not to earthly events.

Rev 22:20 again this is related to overcoming by keeping the faith onto death, because a witness of Jesus cannot recieve his reward unless he dies first and comes before the Lord for judgment. This is the condition of the blood covenant stated in Hebrews 9:16-17.


And as The Messiah had testified, so it was....... "There were some standing here !NOW! WHO WILL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, until they (SOME OF THOSE THE MESSIAH WAS SPEAKING TOO) had seen The Kingdom of Our FATHER and GOD Come with Power!" (Mark 9:1)

Jesus is stating that after he rises from the dead and some of those that remain alive to witness this event will not taste spiritual death like their old covenant fathers who had to wait for messiah to raise them from their graves (Matthew 27:52-53) in fulfilment to Ezekiel 37:11-14. Since messiah came and arose then any servant who has the testimony of Jesus will not have to wait anymore to be raised from the dead, they in this case are immediately in a twinkling of an eye are raised into their resurrection bodies. This is why Jesus previously stated hold onto your crown lest you go of naked without a resurrection garment.

And The Messiah bore witness of His "Coming Again" and "Quickly" when He stood before the "high priest" and testified, "You will see The Son of man sitting on the Right Hand of Power, and coming in the clouds of Heaven"! (Matthew 26:64b)

The high priest saw Jesus from then on because as the statement goes all eyes shall see him, the chief priest died after Jesus ascended up on high to sit on the right hand of power as the almighty judge. When the chief priest died he came face to face before the judgment seat of messiah and in that respect he saw him and the priest mourned and was judged as one of the TARES and cast out into outer darkness.

More to come please be patient.
Sadly naught but that which is of mankind's "imag"ination and so it is the pagan catholic and christian ways are but a playground for the perverse!
 
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Sadly naught but that which is of mankind's "imag"ination and so it is the pagan catholic and christian ways are but a playground for the perverse!

Please kindly be patient as I am replying to your post as per your request. I have not yet finished there's is still more.

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And James testified, "Therefore be patient brethren, until The Lord's return! Behold, how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for The COMING of The Lord IS AT HAND." (James 4:7-8)

James is talking about the condition of the heart.

John testified, "Little children, it is the last time! And as you have heard that anti-messiah shall come, even now are there many anti-messiahs, whereby we know that it is the last time(not the end of the world but the end of the old covenant age)"! (I John 2:18)

The end was coming for them because those anti Christ religious system was going to execute them. So it was the end because they knew their time of departure was at hand.

"And now little children, abide in Him(The Messiah), so that when He shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming"! (I John 2:28)

He appears in context to the disciples being martyred and therefore again the central theme of Christianity comes into play where death brings the servant face to face to the judgement seat of the maker. Jesus Christ is the creator and so they come before him after death to be judged and awarded the crown of righteousness because they have overcome and kept the faith unto the death.

Paul testified, "YET A LITTLE WHILE! And He (The Messiah) that shall come will come, and will not tarry." (Hebrews 10:37)

The context of Hebrews 10:37 is the following:

Heb 10:36
36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
To do the will of God as far as witnesses of Christ we through the blood covenant must keep the faith unto the death. This is what Hebrews states:

Heb 9:16-17
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

It is clearly obvious the author is talking from the last chapter in sequence that as testators we can't receive the promise unless we first die/sleep whilst keeping the faith.

There is me please kindly be patient.


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And Paul testified, "I am in a strait between the two, for I have a desire to depart, and to be with The Messiah, which is far better. Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for all of you. And having that confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of Faith." (Philippians 1:23-25)

Philippians 1:23-25 is in context to:

2Ti 1:10
10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

2Ti 4:6-8
6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day:and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

It is clear that Saint Paul's departure is in context to his departure from this mortal life. This is why in Philippians Saint Paul looks forward to the appearing of the Lord only he as a testator and according to the void covenant first dies/sleeps before he can receive the promise of the crown of righteousness that the Kids will give him but not also him but also other followers who in turn keep the faith onto the death in like manner.


For Paul testified, "WE WHICH ARE ALIVE and remain SHALL BE CAUGHT UP together with them (those son's of GOD who had risen from the dead) in the clouds to meet The Messiah in the air, and so shall WE ever be with The Messiah." (I Thessalonians 4:17-18)

Saint Paul thought that they were living in the 11th hour but he didn't know the gospel hadn't gone out into all the world back then, but he thought the world was limited to their maps. Today Christianity has spread far and wide, so those that are called up are the last wine to the wedding supper of the lamb. Saint Paul wasn't the last wine as he initially thought and in later Thessalonians chapter he would be counted as those who would die and not called up, because he was executed.

The interesting thing he mentions is the following:

1Th 4:15
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

It can be confidently said that all the first century church is counted as the 1st hour workmen who died and came into the presence of the Lord in which Saint Paul calls the Appearing of the Lord.

So that leaves the last good wine at the 12th hour at the end of the new covenant age and not the Old Covenant as you mentioned where the Lord blows the seventh trumpet and calls time no longer.

Here it is:

1Th 4:16
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

The seventh trumpet of God that Christ sounds as declared in Rev 10.
 
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And again Paul testified, "I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. And GOD WILL DELIVER ME FROM EVERY EVIL WORK, AND WILL PRESERVE ME UNTO HIS HEAVENLY KINGDOM, to WHOM be GLORY for ever and ever.. Amen (It is so, let it be so)!" (II Timothy 4:17-18)

God did preserve Paul when he departed to be with the Lord only after he died, to then receive his crown of righteousness that the Lord had already laid for him and also all the new covenant witnesses for the last 2000 and counting who had died in the Lord by keeping the faith.

Such testimony is indicative of Paul yet being alive and taken up "in the clouds to meet The Messiah in the air" when The Messiah DID "Come Again" and "QUICKLY" just as He had prophesied! For at that time of "The END" of the old covenant age "The Messiah DID Come Again in the clouds" when that which was "decaying and waxing old" DID "vanish away" with the destruction of the natural, earthly, temporal temple realm centered in old jerusalem! (Revelations 3:11, Matthew 24:3-14, I Thessalonians 4:18, Hebrew 8:13)

Wrong wrong wrong Saint Paul died and as it is written in Hebrews that a testator must die before they can receive their crown of righteousness. One thing is certain as you said is that after he died he was taken up into the clouds and so have many martyrs of Christ for the last 2000 years and counting.

"The second death has no power over those who were taken Home in that First Resurrection", when The Messiah DID "Come Again" and "QUICKLY", just as He prophesied! (Revelations 21:6; 3:11)

Again the context is overcoming the temptations of the world and keeping the faith unto the death.
Rev 21:7
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Hebrews clearly states that no one can inherit eternal life unless they first die.


And prior to that time of "The END" of the old covenant age, Paul had testified that believers were "translated into The Kingdom of GOD's Dear Son"! (Colossians 1:13)

No go back to when he said my time of departure is at hand and I now gladly look further appearing of the Lord. The word translate is used as something to be fulfilled through death and death only because the 1st century church was the 1st hour workmen and not the last good wine to the wedding supper of the lamb.

And at that time of "the END" of the old covenant age, "The Messiah delivered up The Kingdom unto Our FATHER and GOD and subjected Himself unto HIM, so that Our FATHER and GOD could once again be ALL IN ALL", just as Paul had prophesied in I Corinthians 15:24!

This didn't happen then because the gospel had not gone out into the world back then and the seventh trumpet hasn't been sounded by the Lord declaring time no longer.

As I stated on my initial post that all that you have referred to points to the central theme of Christianity that is to keep the faith onto the death.

Christ Jesus is Yahweh God Almighty
 
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"The Messiah DID "Come Again" and "QUICKLY" just as He had prophesied! For at that time of "The END" of the old covenant age "The Messiah DID Come Again in the clouds" when that which was "decaying and waxing old" DID "vanish away" with the destruction of the natural, earthly, temporal temple realm centered in old jerusalem! (Revelations 3:11, Matthew 24:3-14, I Thessalonians 4:18, Hebrew 8:13)"


You stated recently that Jesus Christ is a created angel and yet scripture tells that He created all of the angels

I would like to know why you made the statement

Also, the verses you provide with your spin above do not perfect the proving of your view

The balance of unfulfilled prophecy with details in the prophets visions trumps your view hands down

I am going to give you a series of the same, one at a time, and I want your rendering related to what you are saying

Here is the first one:


Zechariah
14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

14:11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.


Please explain in detail by verse, one at a time, how this prophet's view fits yours .... your logo implies that your are a Berean, so this should be the method of your rendering .... you as a Berean must also do the testing


Then I will give you the next testing
 
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They did expect the end of the world right after the disaster in Judea, but there was an allowance made that the end of the world might be delayed. Because of this, sometimes when they say "end" the meant the whole package but only the end of the city and temple took place, because of the allowance. Our view of NT eschatology is not correct until the allowance is...allowed!
 
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