What's wrong with hypocrisy?

SoldierOfTheKing · May 17, 2015

"In Praise Of Hypocrisy" by Scott Locklin

I'll allow that there's one problem that inevitably arises from hypocrisy; if what you practice doesn't match with what you preach, it means that either you're you're not saying the right thing or you're not doing the right thing. Who of us always does though? Is there anything worse that can be said of hypocrisy?

SoldierOfTheKing · May 25, 2015

I'll give this thread a bump before I let it lie. Nobody cares to discuss our culture's hang up about hypocrisy? No comments about the article in the link? Is truth less truthful just because it is spoken by someone who doesn't believe it to be true?

quatona · May 25, 2015

SoldierOfTheKing said:
"In Praise Of Hypocrisy" by Scott Locklin

I'll allow that there's one problem that inevitably arises from hypocrisy; if what you practice doesn't match with what you preach, it means that either you're you're not saying the right thing or you're not doing the right thing.

Agreed. That´s a very confusing message.

Who of us always does though?

Is this question supposed to be some sort of argument? For what, against what?

Is there anything worse that can be said of hypocrisy?

No, not much. Do you feel there should be something worse that could be said about it?

Smidlee · May 25, 2015

Hypocrisy simply means actor ; someone who playing a part. Playing games with God is serious business. Peter failed Jesus many times but Jesus never called him a hypocrite.

OldFashionGal · May 25, 2015

Smidlee said:
Hypocrisy simply means actor ; someone who playing a part. Playing games with God is serious business. Peter failed Jesus many times but Jesus never called him a hypocrite.

I think according to the Bible when it reads something about Judge not least ye be Judged it goes on to read something about if you are doing the very thing you are judging others of?? To me that is being a hypocrite if you are doing the very thing you are slamming someone else for. Many will bash someone for doing something wrong but then not bash others that are doing the same thing. If someone judged another person for cussing but that person doing the judging also cussed. In my opinion that would make them a hypocrite.

TheBear · May 25, 2015

Hypocrite = Untrustworthy Liar

OldFashionGal · May 25, 2015

hypocrite
noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite

Smidlee · May 25, 2015

In my concordance it states the Greek meaning " an actor under an assumed character (stage-player)", a dissembler (hypocrite)

GoldenKingGaze · May 27, 2015

From the Gospel, a hypocrite pretends to be righteous, and takes advantage of people financially, or otherwise. They need salvation themselves but condemn others from the office of a teacher. The condemned are humble and ready for grace, but are accused instead and how can they defend themselves. Others still are humble but good hearted, and yet they are condemned, perhaps with some profiteering perhaps political convolutions in the pretender's motives, in the plot.

Hypocrites are pariahs. They put knots in the pipe of grace. They use fairness to condemn those who fairly deserve some degree of penalty, but God wants them to have grace instead.

Just people, in particular young ones, may think grace is meant to be their reward for now and are upset if it is given to sinners. They are the lost son's older brothers, but they may not be pretenders or hypocrites.

In history there are witch hunters, this progressed to more and more sophisticated forms. The saying "sink or swim" came from them. How many of those people were sincere? They waver between fair people and hypocrites.

SoldierOfTheKing · May 28, 2015

OldFashionGal said:
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

If you don't posess these virtues or principles, might it be better to at least pretend to? At least then you're recognizing them for what they are.

GoldenKingGaze said:
The condemned are humble and ready for grace, but are accused instead and how can they defend themselves.

You'd be surprised. They can be very creative in finding ways to justify the wrong they've done. Condemned people can be as proud as anyone.

GoldenKingGaze · May 28, 2015

SoldierOfTheKing said:
If you don't posess these virtues or principles, might it be better to at least pretend to? At least then you're recognizing them for what they are.

You'd be surprised. They can be very creative in finding ways to justify the wrong they've done. Condemned people can be as proud as anyone.

The condemned are people like Mary Magdalene and Simon Peter, Saul of Tarsus and Matthew the tax collector. So the condemners are in need of grace and mercy, but don't seek it, and stop others from taking grace, like Jesus taught: They have the keys, but lock people out.

So if we don't want to be hypocrites, we ought not to judge and condemn, then we are simply sinners, who state the principles of Christ as pursuit, not achievement, and showing mercy, receive mercy.

orangeness365 · May 28, 2015

I think it's because Jesus condemns hypocrites, and he can because he is perfect. Often hypocrites are considered the worst in the bible. although I admit I'm not sure why because I was one myself, although I try not to be anymore. I was so blinded by the plank in my own eye that I didn't even know it was there. I think it's because we will be judged according to our own measures, and the stricter the measures, the tighter we hang our own noose at Judgment Day.

1 Peter 2:1
English Standard Version
So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander.

Matthew 23:27
English Standard Version
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness.

Matthew 24:48-51
48But if that wicked servant says to himself, ‘My master is delayed,’ 49and begins to beat his fellow servantsd and eats and drinks with drunkards, 50the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know 51and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

GoldenKingGaze · May 28, 2015

For the OP: Pretending to be right is not too bad, just so long as you show mercy and don't impede yourself or others being shown mercy. Better just to give a testimony telling where you are in relation to Jesus. Pretenders have a bad name for secret ill motives.

SoldierOfTheKing · May 28, 2015

orangeness365 said:
I think it's because Jesus condemns hypocrites, and he can because he is perfect.

Jesus condemned the Pharisees for hypocrisy, but in their case they were occupying the "seat of Moses" and were morally unfit for their high position. There observance of the minutae of the Law wasn't in itself the issue, except insofar as it guided eyes away from the fact that they were disregarding the broader concepts of the Law. He didn't mean that they should stop preaching righteousness; he meant that their actions should match their words. I don't see how this has anything in common with the immature notion you see so often today that you can disregard what somebody says just because their actions don't match their words.

In fact Jesus expressly said that He was not opposed to what they preached:

"Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."

Matthew 23:1-3

He basically said "do as they say, not as they do", exactly what they would want! The hypocrite who doesn't practice the righteous ways he preaches will answer to God on Judgement Day for it, to be sure, but that is no reason to disregard his preaching. Truth is no less truth just because it comes from the mouth of hypocrite.

On the other hand, if the what the hypocrite preaches isn't right, address the error. No need to even bting up his hypocrisy. If what he preaches is wrong than if anything, you should be glad he doesn't practice it.

Gadarene · May 28, 2015

SoldierOfTheKing said:
I'll give this thread a bump before I let it lie. Nobody cares to discuss our culture's hang up about hypocrisy? No comments about the article in the link? Is truth less truthful just because it is spoken by someone who doesn't believe it to be true?

It doesn't affect truth. It does affect credibility and....moral authority, I suppose, for want of a better term.

GoldenKingGaze · May 29, 2015

The Pharisees and teachers of the law were too strict, not lifting a finger to help, Jesus offered a light and easy yoke.

The teachers themselves did not know first hand what trouble there was in taking their lessons. Jesus however was fully obedient and gave a light yoke to bear.

Gottservant · May 29, 2015

The mistake that is often made when it comes to hypocrisy, is assuming that because someone is a hypocrite they also think that for whatever reason other people have to accept it.

That is a big assumption, which, in its own way, is also quite hypocritical (if not more).

The point is, you should start with your own idea of how you accept people, and work from there.

GoldenKingGaze · May 30, 2015

I think SoldieroftheKing wants to be a hypocrite and be able to judge and condemn people.

CharlesC · May 30, 2015

Jesus wanted us, to make the righteous judgement and not be hypocrites.

SoldierOfTheKing · Jun 1, 2015

Gadarene said:
It doesn't affect truth. It does affect credibility and....moral authority, I suppose, for want of a better term.

If you have truth, what do you need moral authority for?

If you don't have truth, what good would moral authority do?

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