Negativity

It's hard to cry out in anguish and hear nothing.
I don't know how many hundreds or perhaps thousands of times I've just fallen back, hunkered down and waited, only to wonder if I'm waiting to hear back from Him, or if I'm waiting to be able to hear Him or if I'm waiting to be willing to hear Him.

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I can't be certain of this without asking... did my post cause displeasure amongst the mods?

To: Grafted in: I don't think your post caused displeasure among the mods. This thread was moved because it was in the wrong section in their opinion.

ETS, the Lord loves you.... I pray that you will not believe the lies of the devil. The Lord used the life of Job to prove a point... oh to be like Job, "if He slays me I will love Him". What a privilege to be counted worthy to suffer for the Lord.
Here is something that might helped you, it was a list similar to this that helped me when I was a teen. God bless and keep you, praying for you.

RECOMMENDED RULES FOR LOVING

Affirm during the first 45 minutes of your day and during the last 45 minutes of your evening.

1) I like myself unconditionally because I am a child of God; because He loves me unconditionally. (John 1:12; Mark 12:29-31)
2) I enjoy the special and unique person that I am. (Psalm 139:13-16)
3) I never devalue myself with destructive self-criticism.
(1 Corinthians 4:3-5; Romans 14:4,5, & 22)
4) The forgiving love of Jesus Christ penetrates into the very depths of my being and sets me free from the fear of the past and the mistakes of the past. (John 3:16; Colossians 3:13-17; Ephesians 4:32; 1 John 1:9)
5) I have unconditional warm regard for all persons at all times. (1 John 4:7; Romans 12:18-21; Matthew 5:43-48)
6) I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. (Philippians 4:13)

Bless yer heart, praying brother....

What would happen if every single time you had a negative thought about yourself, you replace it with the truth?

Lie:"You're worthless."
Truth: You are fearfully and wonderfully made" - Psalm 139:14. By saying you are worthless, you are insulting God's very creation and that breaks his heart.

Lie:"Nobody cares about you."
Truth: God loved you while you were still a sinner. Romans 5:8

Lie: "You'll never amount to anything"
Truth: For you are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works... Eph 2:10

Lie: "You're never going to find love"
Truth: 1 John 3:1. I know this is not the type of love you are looking for, but the Bible says to seek first his kingdom and the rest will be added to you.

Possible Lie: "You'll never get married."
Truth: This is one you simply don't know - But God does. Jer 29:10. Trust him with it.

Lie: "You're a worthless piece of [excrement]."
Truth: You are worth God sending his own Son to give his life for your salvation. John 3:16

Lie: "You'll never find love."
Lie: "God doesn't care about you."
Lie: "You're unloveable."
Truth: Search the Bible for more verses like 1 John 3:1, John 3:16, Psalm 139:14, Eph 2:10. Memorize the ones that you find most comforting and assuring of God's great love for you. Repeat them over and over in your mind and believe them with your heart. Take every lie captive and make them obedient to the truth of Scripture.

Grafted In said:

I can't be certain of this without asking... did my post cause displeasure amongst the mods?

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oh em gee.. you really need a shrink! I know i can be negative sometimes but this much? nahh

Look at the fruit of those thoughts. What do they produce in you? Do they produce peace, joy, comfort, love, faith? Then, if yes, that is from God. But, if they produce fear, anxiety, unbelief, lack of peace, hatred, doubt, then ask yourself, if those thoughts come from God the Father, or from somewhere else?

Negative thoughts like this are just not good, I think people have given great advice to replace those thoughts with positive ones. If you know they are negative, really just try and recognise it when you have them, and affirm the truth instead. I think you have just got to choose to not to believe those thoughts. Spending time with God through prayer and bible reading regularly I think is really important to keep a strong connection with God. I think this can help keep our minds focused on the truth, especially the truth and good news of our salvation through Christ.

Sometimes I wonder if this negativity curse is the cause of land ownership where conflict and corruption have historically stained the past lives of indigenous peoples who, unfortunately, have fallen into this almost animal-like territorial dispute, and that a powerful race would dominate the nation, such as the English Europeans over the American Indians in United States, or over the Aborigines in Australia - affecting every poor, middle and high class individual, in fact every temporary or permanent resident including those from overseas who want to become permanent citizens who unfortunately, become involved or who have caught the headline news 'once a good citizen, a sudden criminal or victim the next' epidemic:.
In reality, Satan's spiritual warfare is the secretly hidden cause of all mankind's woes since Adam and Eve had sinned, and unusual as it may seem, Jehovah's future plan for ultimate peace on Earth has allowed Satan to do his centuries-long dirty work of deceiving mankind under such powerful atheist or non-Christian religious influence such as Muslim, and that a superhuman being Jesus Christ will eventually return to Earth in his Second Coming, revealing his physical evidence of himself where athiests have that non-patience need now evidence approach:.
Peace and positivity will powerfully dominate our future-coming society of new brothers and sisters of Christ on a new disaster-free paradise Earth where sin, along with Satan, will be a memory experience too long-forgotten to be ever be a memory experience as our future-then new genius-intelligent minds and measure-perfect bodies of Christ are so supernaturally or spiritually focused on our corrupt-free Jesus Christ, it would be impossible to experience any disability-causing depression and anxiety, diseases that are either viral or genetic, or accidental injury such as industrial or car accidents, even old age and death:.
jesus would never spiritually put his mind in neutral if we experience negative feelings, issues or circumstances as our faith is an active channel or connection to Christ's sinless heart as his heart is connected to ours,
so that he can receive what we experience and in return, he sends his Grace or his holy spirit to drought-proof our feelings with Christ's constant flowing abundance of peace and joy intermixed with righteousness and healing.;'"*'"; .

Put on the full armor of God and stand your ground!
Don't give the enemy room to drag you down with lies.

Here's a bible study I recommend a lot:
http://www.freebiblestudyguides.org/bible-teachings/armor-of-god.htm

Love the responses based on Scripture.

Also, from Beth Moore, when telling Yahweh that you love Him, change from "I love You" to "I love You, too."

When we follow what Scripture says, it's replacing our thinking for the way Yahweh wants us to think. Scripture says to take every thought captive (II Cor 10:5) and renew our minds with His Word (Rom 12:2). It's understanding that who we are is based on who He is.

No, it's not easy - you are in a battle (see BFine's post). Changing our thinking requires us to rely on Him but "you can do all things through Christ who strengthens you" (Phillipians 4:13).

The first step, I think, you have already taken: you have properly identified those statements as not being godly, and so not true.

Pray to God consistently on these matters. Remember, you can pray internally. So that means you can pray everytime you find yourself under such assault.

Those "voices" are not you. Whether they be "demons" or "the flesh", or "the result of bad things from your past", it really does not matter. What matters is to turn to God and pray, whenever they happen. Just as you inwardly hear these statements, inwardly go, something like, "Dear God please remove this thorn from my side!" or "Dear God, please remove from me these voices".

Always, always be ready and willing to turn to God in your heart in this sort of manner.

ValleyGal said:

What would happen if every single time you had a negative thought about yourself, you replace it with the truth?

Lie:"You're worthless."
Truth: You are fearfully and wonderfully made" - Psalm 139:14. By saying you are worthless, you are insulting God's very creation and that breaks his heart.

Lie:"Nobody cares about you."
Truth: God loved you while you were still a sinner. Romans 5:8

Lie: "You'll never amount to anything"
Truth: For you are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works... Eph 2:10

Lie: "You're never going to find love"
Truth: 1 John 3:1. I know this is not the type of love you are looking for, but the Bible says to seek first his kingdom and the rest will be added to you.

Possible Lie: "You'll never get married."
Truth: This is one you simply don't know - But God does. Jer 29:10. Trust him with it.

Lie: "You're a worthless piece of [excrement]."
Truth: You are worth God sending his own Son to give his life for your salvation. John 3:16

Lie: "You'll never find love."
Lie: "God doesn't care about you."
Lie: "You're unloveable."
Truth: Search the Bible for more verses like 1 John 3:1, John 3:16, Psalm 139:14, Eph 2:10. Memorize the ones that you find most comforting and assuring of God's great love for you. Repeat them over and over in your mind and believe them with your heart. Take every lie captive and make them obedient to the truth of Scripture.

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Very well stated, ValleyGal. This is what the Bible means by taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ and is the only effective way to deal with the devils accusations ( aka renewing the mind and the shield of faith).

Be Blessed,

Alan

Remember you are not alone. All Christians go through this. Remember, they hated Jesus first. The world will hate you. Come out from among them and be seperate and become sons and daughters of the Almighty.
See, you are not feeling this way for nothing. Jesus loves you. That is worth smiling about. My family is all messed up. I mean, my dad married 4 different woman, he beat 3 until they divorced him, he is carnal and worldly. He married his last wife because she had money and advised us boys to do the same. He was a drug dealer and a drunkard and taught my brother to do the same. My Dad also started accusing me of being gay, which was untrue. I felt terrible. I was trapped in someways. Could not work, due to people would not take a chance on me due to having a severe stroke at age 16. So I was literatally stuck until age 26 with my parents. So I thought, invent a love to stop them from calling me gay. Well, I told my stepmother I loved her. That really done no good, made them call me gay more and got told by my Dad, that he hated me and wanted me to go. So I finally got disability and moved out. I got lonely around Christmas time. Woke up one Christmas morning with no gifts or a tree and put my head under my pillow and started crying. I heard a voice say," they hated me first". My tears stopped and I could not help from laughing. I was already saved but not baptized. So I became baptized and God said be seperate. I started reading the Bible and the first month went through the New Testament. Eventually found a job working for the hospital and married a Christian lady. Got 3 boys. What is impossible through man is possible through God. I still do not go around my parents or family. I just don't have anything in common with them. I think spiritually and they are worldly. I think of honoring the Lord and they think owning a table owned by Musalini is great. Or owning a LeRoy Nieman painting is great. Possessions mean nothing to me. What is import ants is God. My stepmother, the last time I spoke to her, she said she read the whole Bible, and thought Jesus was only a prophet. My Dad has been a proclaimed Christian since before my birth, but actions say he is not a real Christian. He disowned me. No true Christian would do that to there own son. Especially a handicapped son.