Tools far pre date man, evolution theory kicked in face

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OK, so you admit the evo timing is off and man did exist at the time.

So you want to call man a funny name and claim the evo timing is off...way off. OK.



The article is clear enough, no discounting needed. Your posts are fuzzy. Work on that.



Man had no ancestors. He was created. Any skulls or whatever you have are either not man, or you misunderstand how much we may have changed from the former nature of Adam and Noah's day.


You are welcome to try to prove man existed or had 'ancestors'. I don't believe you
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The track you are taking..... appears to lead to
MAN, 'being created' AT A PARTICULAR 'TIME' possibly in terms of several thousands of years ago (?)
AND, are maybe not seeing
that millions of years may have passed, since man was cast-out of Eden ie: before Man could write about himself

:)

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'Chronology' is the difficulty
WHAT WAS the "Timeline" ?....
 
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Man had no ancestors. He was created. Any skulls or whatever you have are either not man, or you misunderstand how much we may have changed from the former nature of Adam and Noah's day.


You are welcome to try to prove man existed or had 'ancestors'. I don't believe you
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LOL

Let me be a little less "FUZZY" ........

Man was created.... but WHEN was that?.....
It could be, that man, was around, back some 6 - 7 million years ago
But we will have-to wait and see, if sufficient evidence is forthcoming on that

For now We are hearing that man, may have made tools 3+ million years ago
I am cool with that....
God created man, and TIME doesn't phase God, as he is omnipresent (I believe)

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The track you are taking..... appears to lead to
MAN, 'being created' AT A PARTICULAR 'TIME' possibly in terms of several thousands of years ago (?)
AND, are maybe not seeing
that millions of years may have passed, since man was cast-out of Eden ie: before Man could write about himself

:)

dave

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'Chronology' is the difficulty
WHAT WAS the "Timeline" ?....
LOL

Let me be a little less "FUZZY" ........

Man was created.... but WHEN was that?.....
It could be, that man, was around, back some 6 - 7 million years ago
But we will have-to wait and see, if sufficient evidence is forthcoming on that

For now We are hearing that man, may have made tools 3+ million years ago
I am cool with that....
God created man, and TIME doesn't phase God, as he is omnipresent (I believe)

dave

No millions of years existed, that cannot be proven and is pure belief. There is your problem. The nature in the future and past recorded in Scripture is not the present nature. Science assumes everything was and will be in this nature. That is belief.
 
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No millions of years existed, that cannot be proven and is pure belief. There is your problem. The nature in the future and past recorded in Scripture is not the present nature.
How do you know, were you there?

After all, couldn't God have created some stuff on the "first day," waited a few billion years, then created some stuff on the "second day," waited a few billion years, then created some stuff on the "third day," etc.?

Sort of like a "cosmic punctuated evolution"?
 
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I just want to express my gratitude for these type threads, and the mentality behind them. They are comic relief on steroids! :D

Thank you! :thumbsup:
You're most welcome.

And feel free to contribute as well.
 
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How do you know, were you there?

After all, couldn't God have created some stuff on the "first day," waited a few billion years, then created some stuff on the "second day," waited a few billion years, then created some stuff on the "third day," etc.?

Sort of like a "cosmic punctuated evolution"?
You serious??

What was created on what day we know. No billions of years between. Adam didn't wait millions of years for Eve, plants never waited billions of years for the sun...etc.


That brings to mind the equation of why God would put radioactive daughter material into rocks and etc? There would be no purpose to that would there?

Now if the stuff was there but working in another nature doing whatever it used to do, then it would have had a purpose.
 
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That's just gross on ten different levels. :sick:


What is gross is evil men with wicked imaginations. I doubt the monkeys had anything evil in mind. Probably checking each other for lice or something. The point of the pic was that they looked dumb.
 
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:thumbsup:


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No millions of years existed, that cannot be proven and is pure belief. There is your problem. The nature in the future and past recorded in Scripture is not the present nature. Science assumes everything was and will be in this nature. That is belief.
Where in the bible is the age of the earth even given? People just derive a number from connecting events, but it isn't like the bible has a good track record with numbers.
 
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Great so the dates mean that the tools do not fit into the evolutionary timescale posited by science.

It is precisely the evidence and your beliefs that come into question here. If tools from clovis man happened to be a bad fit for your dating dreamscape I guess you would do the same thing. Look for monkeys that dunnit. Sad.
Hmm, looking for where in evolutionary theory it says humans or even human like creatures had to be the first to use tools, yet I cannot seem to find it... oh wait, there is no such condition. Even dolphins use tools, why do you think it is relevant to evolution which creature used them first?
 
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Ah yes. The creationist notion that if you speak an untruth often enough, it will somehow become a truth.
Calling what you can't prove a notion is not facing the truth that your dates are religion. Not God's religion either. Nowhere in Scripture do we find them they are inserted via imagination. In science, they are merely an effort to extend the current nature .. all by faith alone.
 
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I see the 'light' ~your world is not 'my world'. my world is 'lighted'

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Corinthians 6:14

I am 'letting -go'

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+55:8-11

Have a good day
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Dismissed. I do not find it particularity 'light' for you to claim millions of years as some sort of fact, then slink off, by the way. Don't blame it on the bible pal.

Absolutely not! ^_^

You know me better than that! ;)
Sometimes we think we know folks, and are surprised. That did sound unusual for you.
 
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Where in the bible is the age of the earth even given?
The time when the oldest son was born is generally given. Combining all that, some have come up with an age for earth since creation. There is some possible room for interpretive error, but that is fairly small, for example, say a few centuries. The problem comes when people insert imaginary billions of years between verses, when it is not there, they just feel they need it to be! Filling perceived gaps with imaginary ages is the nomme de guerre for compromisers who want to have their man pleasing cake and God's bible cake and eat them too.
 
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Hmm, looking for where in evolutionary theory it says humans or even human like creatures had to be the first to use tools, yet I cannot seem to find it... oh wait, there is no such condition. Even dolphins use tools, why do you think it is relevant to evolution which creature used them first?

The issue is not using tools. The issue is manufacturing real tools and the deliberated effort that is involved such as hammer and anvil, flaking stones, etc. You can't compare that to a monkey banging a banana with a stick or something. The archeological find is not 'evolution theory'. From what I hear, they have always assumed tools were from man when they found some. They did not assign the clovis arrow head to deer for example, but to earlier man.
 
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