Is the Church Raptured in Revelation 4

"Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets"


No mention of any resurrection in conjunction the 7th .... it is a judgment trumpet

The mystery .... that the Lord is who He is and He has come to take back the earth from unregenerate human rule .... the finishing at Armageddon [Ezekiel 39] .... Israel will know and the nations will know the Jesus is the Lord

Paul already revealed the mystery of the pre-tribulation church

BABerean2 said:

I am glad you mentioned the "mystery".
Here is the timing of the "mystery".


Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

I cannot see how anyone would know when the 7th trumpet will sound, before it is sounded by the angel.

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I have seen the vision to this mystery. The sounding of the seventh trumpet is by the Lord himself standing on a mounted horseless chariot holding a parabolic trumpet and sounding it to call it a day, that is TIME NO LONGER!

Now you are making up stories .... and if you did see a vision of what you say, it is coming from a bad place .... watch out

Straightshot said:

Now you are making up stories .... and if you did see a vision of what you say, it is coming from a bad place .... watch out

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Fear God because if you are calling the Holy Ghost that showed me this vision the BAD PLACE, then you have rendered you salvation NIL AND VOID.

THOUGH SHALT NOT BLAPHEME AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST

More stories I see

You are hooked to a habit that you need to renounce and leave it

You did not see anything from the Lord

Be careful what you look for

I don't believe you

The Lord has already written His Word and you should not be dabbling [Revelation 22:18-19]

His revelation is finished

Good for you .... I still don't believe you

Are you going to put a curse on me?

BABerean2 said:

I am made of the same rotten flesh they are made of.

However, my knee has bowed and my tongue has confessed that Jesus of Nazareth was and is the Son of the Living God.
He bought me with His Blood.

God will never look favorably on anyone who has rejected His Son.


Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

The verse above contains two groups of Israelites.
There are those who are the enemies, who have rejected Christ and there is "the election" who are the remnant who have accepted Christ.

Romans chapter 11 started, with two groups of Israelites.
There were the Baal worshippers and there was the remnant of 7,000 who would not bow the knee to Baal.

Paul ends the chapter in the same way, with two groups of Israelites.

Which group does God look upon favorably?
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And one again, you're the favorable Israel and the one under your nose isn't. How come, there must be a reason why you are and they are not. Are you better like the other Berean here who thinks the same thing?

This is what happens when men ignore simple things in scripture, they become wise in their conceits as the apostle says.

"are you better like the other Berean here who thinks the same thing?"


I wonder if these two are the same guy?

Could be, they both think they're Israel and Israel isn't.

They both yell a lot

Ya .... I think they are the same guy with different numbers

.... must be

I wonder which tribe?

Yes and much yelling .... I wonder if it is a hearing problem?, if you know what I mean

Stop casting stones upon each other. If you are of the body of Christ refrain from making these remarks and comparisons between believers in Christ and those that are the unbelieving Gentiles of the world.

Believers and unbelievers are not the same as far as God is concerned. To be blessed you must kiss the Son. Kissing the Son and being baptised in his name is the condition by which the wrath of God is removed from one's head.

John 8:24
I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins."

Many countless Jews have died in their sins and as a result they have PERISHED, DONT YOU GET IT.

You might ask why I speak like this towards the unbelieving Jewish peoples and with what authority's do I speak?

The authority is here:

Matthew 12:41
The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here.

The reason is because that is the way the Lord has planned it in order to save a few of them so that they don't perish like the millions have in the last 2000 years or so and counting.

The irony is the same Holy hand that sent Jonah to save the men of Nineveh, will send the Men of Nineveh as the Jonah's of the world to save the Jews and at the same time rally behind them as the 11th hour workmen.

The first will become the last.

The key to saving the Jews of today are the Assyrians who are declared in scripture to be the handy work of God and have always been.

We want them to have the same denarius like us. So it must be this way.

Sorry, everyone knows the resurrection is on the last day.