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Interesting Wiki entry about all the LDS Denominations, both defunct and active:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

I didn't realize there are so many, albeit many are pretty small compared to the Salt Lake LDS denomination. Of course, this is a Wiki entry so it probably just scratches the surface.

I have only met people from the main Salt Lake City branch of Mormonism but also a couple from the "Community of Christ" which is the "RLDS" or "Reorganized LDS" church - it is the one carried on by Joseph Smith's son. The Brigham Young followers did not want to honor Joseph Smith's passing of the role of prophet to Joseph Smith's son and voted in Brigham Young into the main denomimation. The big split between the two was over polygamy - Joseph Smith's son (son of his wife Emma) was vehemently against polygamy while Brigham Young, of course, was one of the most polygamous Mormons ever.

Interesting that many of the denominations still practice polygamy - we all know this from some mainstream representations of them through the media news and TV shows, fictional but based on reality as well as reality/documentary shows.

If anyone has more knowledge or experience with any of these, please share.
 

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Most of those groups that still practice polygamy split off in protest of the church's decision to halt the practice in the wake of the (very much unConstitutional) anti-polygamy laws passed in the late 1800s.

Virtually no contact takes place between the main body and any of these groups, but the media has a bad habit of conflating the two anyway. In fact, back when Discovery Networks still maintained their own discussion forums, it was pretty much a weekly thing for someone to go onto the "Sister Wives" forum and ask what group they were supposed to be a part of (Apostolic United Brethren, IIRC).
 
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The RLDS, now Community of Christ, is not a denomination of the LDS; their beliefs and doctrines are very different.

That Wikipedia page distinguishes between the LDS movement and the LDS church. The former contains multiple spinoffs from the original LDS group. The latter is the largest group within the movement.
 
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The RLDS, now Community of Christ, is not a denomination of the LDS; their beliefs and doctrines are very different.


Yep they are now members of the National Council of Churches a liberal ecumenical association. A church who strongly affirmed the First Vision and the apostasy of all churches of the day has now applied for and been granted membership with the apostates.
 
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No problem with Calvinism just so long as it is realised that it is heretical.

I don't believe Calvinism is heretical. And I'm Arminian (as well as Armenian).
 
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Most of those groups that still practice polygamy split off in protest of the church's decision to halt the practice in the wake of the (very much unConstitutional) anti-polygamy laws passed in the late 1800s.

Virtually no contact takes place between the main body and any of these groups, but the media has a bad habit of conflating the two anyway. In fact, back when Discovery Networks still maintained their own discussion forums, it was pretty much a weekly thing for someone to go onto the "Sister Wives" forum and ask what group they were supposed to be a part of (Apostolic United Brethren, IIRC).

Interesting.

It's pretty ironic - First the Brighamists separated from the RLDS because they wanted to maintain the practice of polygamy then later they separated from the other LDS denominations because they stopped the practice of polygamy.

I think the media and anyone else conflates these denominations with each other because little is known about them all. But they are all LDS, they are just not part of the main Salt Lake branch of Mormonism.
 
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I don't believe Calvinism is heretical. And I'm Arminian (as well as Armenian).
I am also Armenian, but I am not Arminian ... neither am I a Calvinist.

No, Calvinists are not heretics.

Let me do some moderating work on that post. :)
 
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Calvinism, which argues that God CHOOSES some humans to be saved and damns the rest is a heresy. The Gospel proclaims that Jesus died for ALL not some.
To say that God predetermined some not to be saved is held even by Arminians who agree that God knew beforehand the people who would reject him.
Logical question is - why create if someone chooses to be damned?
Since God knew some would go to hell before people were created why create those who choose to go to hell?

Please, I would be more than happy discussing this in Members Services.

What Calvinists do is say in a harsher language that what the Arminians claim - God knew who would go to the Burning Lake before they were born.

To say that a Nicene group is a heretic is a rule violation at CF.

Please.

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I don't know if that's fair, they are different. Just because they came from the same origin doesn't mean they're the same.

I think it's fair, and I'm also a Latter-day saint. Why do you think it's unfair? (and are you even a Latter-day saint?)
 
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I think it's fair, and I'm also a Latter-day saint. Why do you think it's unfair?
Oh okay, well I disagree.
Like I said, just because the RLDS and FLDS came from the mainstream LDS movement doesn't mean they're the same.

(and are you even a Latter-day saint?)
no, why? :)
 
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I am also Armenian, but I am not Arminian ... neither am I a Calvinist.

No, Calvinists are not heretics.

Let me do some moderating work on that post. :)

I'm Armenian Apostolic and from what (little) I know about Calvinism/Arminianism I believe our theology is more Arminian. However, I'm probably being inaccurate since Armenian Apostolic belief has been around long before Arminius and any alignment is not from his teaching but coincidental. And to be honest I probably have a leaning towards Calvinism in one of its iterations (as I understand there are several that can be quite different from each other).

Anyway, my point was more that I don't think either Calvinism nor Arminianism (nor the Lutheran position which I understand is different from both) is heretical.

Interesting to meet an Armenian Lutheran, lately the Lutheran church has intrigued me and I'm investigating it - just for knowledge, to learn; but it seems like I would agree with them on much.
 
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I think it's fair, and I'm also a Latter-day saint. Why do you think it's unfair? (and are you even a Latter-day saint?)
Then why do you list yourself as Oriental-Orthox?
 
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Oh okay, well I disagree.
Like I said, just because the RLDS and FLDS came from the mainstream LDS movement doesn't mean they're the same.


no, why? :)

Well I'm not saying they're "the same", I'm saying that they are all LDS. And the reason I ask if you are LDS is because it helps me to understand that your opinion on this doesn't affect you, since you're not LDS. I am LDS though (not Mormon, but LDS).

You know, it's possible that you are LDS - you might just not know it. If you're a Christian it's the same thing - you could choose to identify as LDS, if you wanted to. That's why I choose to identify as LDS.
 
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