Seperated, feeling a horrible divorce/custody battle building...

RaydonRaven

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I haven't been an active member on here for a very long time and I've been debating about doing this for quite a while. Finally decided to just do it.

First a little backstory:

My wife and I have been major problems the last three years or so (not just with our marriage). We ended up in some family counselling for a while, and therapy separately. It seemed like things were improving finally last summer. Totally out of the blue one day, she asks me for permission to explore her "bisexual attractions". I said I didn't think that would be a good idea. About a month later, she comes to me and admits that she cheated on me with another woman. I forgave her and suggested that maybe we should get back to counselling together. She dragged her feet on it, got more and more distant, eventually spent as much time as she could away from home (...again), and continued to cheat on me. Finally, when she was home one afternoon, not long after I got up (I was working an overnight shift at the time), she starts an argument with me, it escalated, and she kicked me out. I was forced to leave town and leave my job behind because I had no friends in town, no way to afford an apartment or a hotel, no where to go. About a month after that, she called me to say she was going to send the kids to live with me because she and her parents were having too much trouble with them.

Fast forward to now. I've been doing my best to keep things civil, but I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. My parents, friends, the few people at church that I talk about it with have been greatly supportive, but most of them are getting frustrated with me now. Some of them are starting to question why I'm still depressed and "so negative about everything" and why I'm dragging my feet. But everytime I talk to my wife about getting a mediator, or filing, or (especially) the kids she quickly gets nasty and critical. And it gets much worse if I stand up for myself. Everytime we talk about what to do with the kids, she accuses me of trying to keep them from her or she accuses me of being abusive. I don't get it... The biggest thing that attracted me to her in the first place was how nice and genuinely caring she was.

Long story short, I've been taking care of my two kids while living in my parents basement, doing everything I can to find work, all the while dealing with all this betrayal and nastiness, trying to figure out just what the hell happened, and (it seems to me anyway) staring an inevitably horrible, nasty, drawn out divorce and custody battle. I've been praying and surrendering it all to God everytime I think about any of it, but it hasn't been helping much. None of my friends of family has ever been through anything like this, so most of the time their advice is "pray and be patient". I don't know what to do or where to turn anymore...
 

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I'm sorry Raydon that you're in this position. I am glad, however, that you have your kids. If you haven't already, start now writing out every single thing that has happened since your wife asked your permission to pursue same sex attraction. And when you have written this out, continue to document every conversation and also every step YOU have taken to patch up your marriage. Document your income and expenses, and log the activities you have taken with your kids and how they prosper with you. I give this advice because as it will almost certainly come to a divorce, you must be able to show how hard you have worked to heal your marriage, and how well you have cared for your children alone. Unfortunately, men often have a tougher time retaining custody so you should be able to show what a great single parent you are.

I'm sorry that people are behaving so negatively towards you. There never should be any kind of timeline in which you should "get over it" and it's ridiculous for people to have that expectation. ISTM that people seem to run out of patience far too quickly - particularly sometimes with men, who they expect to be tough. Unfortunately that's a societal thing, as is the attitude that men can't nurture. I would suggest that you look around for a single parents group - a single parent group for men would be fantastic, but may not be as possible. So, try to find more people who are in your position and can give you help and support.

Please start talking to a lawyer. Find one who is willing to take your case pro bono and who is invested in the outcome. You will need this person's help.
 
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Hetta, thanks for the advice. I think the biggest problem I'm running into with people around me is that literally none of them have any experience with this kind of thing; they have no idea how much it hurts and utterly destroys your life... And while I do appreciate their support, it would be nice to hear more than "just pray about it".

Messy, they've been with me since December. I live in SW Kansas and their mom is in NE Kansas. They went up there for spring break and came back. Other than that she's called to talk to them twice since December. I'd be more than happy to coparent and get a mediator, that's basically what I've been suggesting since this all started. And she was open to it when I moved. Between December and now she's changed. It's just so frustrating... She sent them to live with me because I was in a better position to take care of them. Now she wants them back, but the only thing that's changed up there is that she lives with her girlfriend now.
 
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Raydon, I am truly sorry for the situation you have found yourself in. I am recently divorced myself and know full well the feeling of shock, horror, shame, guilt, and feeling of helplessness that comes with this package. After going through a terrible custody battle with my now ex wife I would HIGHLY recommend you taking Hetta's advice about retaining a lawyer. I cannot stress enough how important it is to have a lawyer on your side. Many people will tell you that you don't REALLY need one. That's utter bull!! You absolutely do need a lawyer. If you cant afford one then sell your furniture and buy one. No furniture? Then sell your car. Also, do not allow your ex-wife to be alone with your children. By all means allow visitation. Your children should see their mother and you cannot allow her to have a legitimate claim that you are withholding visitation from her, but do it either in YOUR home or someplace neutral like Chuck E Cheese. Make sure there is no way she can run off with them. She is still their mother and as my lawyer told me when my ex wife ran off with my son, "she is the mother and can legally take the child anywhere she chooses" If she runs off with your children there is not a single thing in the world you can do to legally get them back besides file for custody. If the child isn't in your home at the time then the chances of your getting custody is extremely unlikely. About 2% of men in your area retain custody of their children during a divorce. Most of that number comes from men who kept the children in his home. Judges are extremely unlikely to remove a child from an established place of residence. Judges don't like to break up a child's routine ie friends, school, etc. Also, keep everything. Every single text, email, letter, or birthday card you get from your ex is solid gold in the court room.

I know you very much love your wife and very much want to be nice to her, but this is not the time to be nice. This is the time to buckle down and stand your ground. During this time you should fall on your face and pray like everything depends on God, then get and work like everything depends on you. Be in tune to the spirit of God and don't disrespect his precious name during this time, but this is the one time in your life where every action you make will have long term consequences for yourself and your children. Be strong. Be discerning. and above all do NOT let your wife manipulate you or anyone else.



Also, I am truly, sincerely sorry, but this is going to be the most painful experience of your life. Please, please find a way to get loving people around you and by all means get some counseling. You HAVE to vent this stuff out or it will eat you alive inside.

Praying for you.
 
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I haven't been on this site since last June, I let myself get caught up in everything and just plain forgot about this place. I don't even know if anyone here still cares or will care anymore. Anyway, there has been a LOT that has happened since June. Some good, some not, some of it both. My son and I have been officially diagnosed with ADHD, my daughter is getting screeened for it, I'm convinced my son and I also have Asperger's (just waiting on the expert decision, but it seems like a sure thing), my wife moved out of state, moved back, and is moving out of state again. She also has yet to provide me with the information I need/requested so I can file for divorce, and has not seen the kids in person in almost a year. And she had an ugly break-up with her girlfriend, asked if we could get back together (long story short the answer was no), and then immediately ran off with another girl.

Basically, all I'm waiting for right now is a mailing address from her. I don't think custody will be much of a fight anymore. But I do worry about how the kids will handle all of this.
 
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