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There is a difference between "Spirit Upon" (which is what we are talking about here" and "Spirit Within."
Samuel didn't have the Spirit in him... And he still heard the lord. Back in OT they couldn't have the spirit in them , it could only rest upon them and those who it rested upon were deemed anointed.
 
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That does not answer the question.
If you're talking about that lab control stuff, I have no idea about that..but you should probably look for an answer from the person you quoted about that specific issue. I was simply commenting that you give the devil way too much credit.
 
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Simply put, I think if the gift causes torment and unease and brings about negative events its from the Devil. The devil doesn't do anything good nor is he the bringer of anything good. Only God is....why would the devil give you insight about a friend or family member so that you can help them? His only purpose is to kill,steal and destroy.
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Acts 16.16 It happened that as we were going to the place of prayer, a slave-girl having a spirit of divination met us, who was bringing her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 Following after Paul and us, she kept crying out, saying, “These men are bond-servants of the Most High God, who are proclaiming to you the way of salvation.” 18 She continued doing this for many days. But Paul was greatly annoyed, and turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her!” And it came out at that very moment.

The girl was saying the right things. It may have even led people to listen to the gospel. But it was still demonic in origin, which Paul recognized by the gift of Discerning of Spirits.
 
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Samuel didn't have the Spirit in him... And he still heard the lord. Back in OT they couldn't have the spirit in them , it could only rest upon them and those who it rested upon were deemed anointed.
Not true. I suggest you read "Receiving the Power" by Revs Z. Brad Long and Doug McMurry. There is a chapter in there on the difference that can go into much more detail than I can get to here.
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I have had my experiences with psychics. I have gone in thinking...Im not telling you anything. Im not going to divulge - be specific or Im going. Three people I saw were general and guessing..... then there was a 4th. I dont want to think that my experience was satanic. Id find it very upsetting. It was loving. It wasnt generalized nonsense. It didnt draw me into some sort of evil world and bad deeds. But it did, even just for a day, give me something I needed to hear.
 
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Consider this example:

Acts 16.16 It happened that as we were going to the place of prayer, a slave-girl having a spirit of divination met us, who was bringing her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 Following after Paul and us, she kept crying out, saying, “These men are bond-servants of the Most High God, who are proclaiming to you the way of salvation.” 18 She continued doing this for many days. But Paul was greatly annoyed, and turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her!” And it came out at that very moment.

The girl was saying the right things. It may have even led people to listen to the gospel. But it was still demonic in origin, which Paul recognized by the gift of Discerning of Spirits.

Well duh, she dabbled in the occult, if she didn't...there wouldn't be a spirit of divination in her and it plainly states she was a fortune teller.[You have to open yourself up to the occult]( Not only that but because its a demonic spirit...though it doesn't say it.,I'm sure she was oppressed in some form-- if it brings personal and spiritual oppression..its defintely not a spirit of God) Where as Samuel, though he didn't know the Lord ... He was still gifted and operated in his gift before coming to God...and if it was a spirit of divination..it would have stated it plainly but it wasn't.

You have to dabble in the occult to do that. People who exercise gifts such as prophecy,discernment and such without delving into the occult..their gift comes from God.
 
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I have had my experiences with psychics. I have gone in thinking...Im not telling you anything. Im not going to divulge - be specific or Im going. Three people I saw were general and guessing..... then there was a 4th. I dont want to think that my experience was satanic. Id find it very upsetting. It was loving. It wasnt generalized nonsense. It didnt draw me into some sort of evil world and bad deeds. But it did, even just for a day, give me something I needed to hear.
All I can say is please bear with some of us on this site. Trust me, not everything is the devil its not.

If its a loving experience ...say, (ill use my dad for example) when my dads mother died, he was able to hear h3r say bye...though he couldn't make it to her funeral.

And those aren't demonic spirits or anything evil...that was Gods mercy letting my dad have a final good bye.

Anyone who thinks otherwise just simply wants to argue for arguments sake.
 
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Where as Samuel, though he didn't know the Lord ... He was still gifted and operated in his gift before coming to God...
I would be careful on that assumption. He was already in the covenant (saved) as a native born Israelite. the Mosaic covenant was entered into by birth. While he may have had to learn to relate to God, the covenantal relationship was already there.
 
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I would be careful on that assumption. He was already in the covenant (saved) as a native born Israelite. the Mosaic covenant was entered into by birth. While he may have had to learn to relate to God, the covenantal relationship was already there.
He was a child and if he already had a relationship Samuel would have known it was God calling him. Even the scripture I gave you said he didn't know the word of the lord yet, you can go back and look at it yourself.

Again its simple, if the gift oppressed you..like it did with the girl with the divination spirit that made her say those things repeatedly, is a sign of oppression imo... And if it causes personal and spiritual oppression then its not of God.

If it helps comfort,understand and helps in beneficial ways its from God.
 
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I would be careful on that assumption. He was already in the covenant (saved) as a native born Israelite. the Mosaic covenant was entered into by birth. While he may have had to learn to relate to God, the covenantal relationship was already there.
Also about that covenental relationship, if that were the case then the Lord wouldn't have talked the prophet Balaam
 
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Not true. I suggest you read "Receiving the Power" by Revs Z. Brad Long and Doug McMurry. There is a chapter in there on the difference that can go into much more detail than I can get to here.
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I think what bothers me about you is that your trying to take heart felt experiences, experiences people are brave enough to open up about ..and your condemning it almost..attributing everything to the devil and that can mess with a person's mind and well being...making them think instead of feeling their mothers comforting presence ..it was a demon..not only is that wrong to do emotionally ..but it isn't accurate either.

I also find people who are so quick to condemn and attribute peoples personal spiritually experiences to the devil are either jealous or didn't have many themselves, not saying you are this is just my findings
 
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I think what bothers me about you is that your trying to take heart felt experiences, experiences people are brave enough to open up about ..and your condemning it almost..attributing everything to the devil and that can mess with a person's mind and well being.
I understand that. I also understand that the devil is in stealth mode and tries his hardest to convince people of the veracity of his forgeries. He will even go with the factual truth and a lot of feel-good stuff to eventually pass his lies and deceptions on.
 
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I understand that. I also understand that the devil is in stealth mode and tries his hardest to convince people of the veracity of his forgeries. He will even go with the factual truth and a lot of feel-good stuff to eventually pass his lies and deceptions on.
Yeah but people are so focused on the devil they lose sight of God and his might. That type of focus isn't good or healthy as it magnifies the devil and diminishes God. And perpetuates fear

Me personally, being a Christian for 6 years...I feel I know how the devil operates.

Feel good messages= there's more than one way to God, homosexuality isn't a sin.
He'll is just darkness, its not a place

And I already list the other criterias, oppression, if it steal,kills ,destroys..

If it doesn't line up with the word of God..

Its not hard to tell what's God and what's the devil.
 
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I understand that. I also understand that the devil is in stealth mode and tries his hardest to convince people of the veracity of his forgeries. He will even go with the factual truth and a lot of feel-good stuff to eventually pass his lies and deceptions on.

The friend I described in the OP who has a intuitive or psychic ability is a devout Christian, and uses her ability only to help others. She certainly helped me when she advised me to quickly get to a hospital. How is that in any way shape or form "the devil is in stealth mode?"

My opinion is that in her case this is a gift from God.
 
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Me personally, being a Christian for 6 years...I feel I know how the devil operates.....
Its not hard to tell what's God and what's the devil.
Harder than you think - at least in the natural. One needs the gift of Discerning of Spirits to be sure. I have been a believer for 55 years and I am not so clear on it sometimes.
 
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The friend I described in the OP who has a intuitive or psychic ability is a devout Christian, and uses her ability only to help others. She certainly helped me when she advised me to quickly get to a hospital. How is that in any way shape or form "the devil is in stealth mode?"

My opinion is that in her case this is a gift from God.
Its not from the devil, you even said yourself she is a devout Christian so her gifting is from God.
 
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Harder than you think - at least in the natural. One needs the gift of Discerning of Spirits to be sure. I have been a believer for 55 years and I am not so clear on it sometimes.
Its not that hard, especially if you read and know your bible.
 
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Its not that hard, especially if you read and know your bible.
How long have you been dealing with demons? I have since the mid 1960s. About 10 years into that I made some serious mis-understandings and mistakes. So I know how tricky that is. IMO you have yet to learn that lesson.
 
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Some People ARE actually more intuitive than others. Some are so remarkably intuitive that it can seem like having psychic powers. This is especially common in the INFP personality type (See the Myers Briggs Type Indicator): Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving.
The INFP Personality
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Is being a physic, the same or different from people who say they are "empaths"...?

Empath: "a person with the paranormal ability to apprehend the mental or emotional state of another individual."

Physic: "relating to or denoting faculties or phenomena that are apparently inexplicable by natural laws, especially involving telepathy or clairvoyance."

Telepathy: Telepathy (from the Greek τῆλε, tele meaning "distant" and πάθος, pathos or -patheia meaning "feeling, perception, passion, affliction, experience") is the purported transmission of information from one person to another without using any of our known sensory channels or physical interaction.

Psychic empath: A person who is a psychic empath has a rare and special gift of being able to feel the emotions around him or her as if they were their own emotions. People are born with this ability, and often don't realize they are different from most people until they are crossing over into the teen years.

God Bless!
 
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