No, Boy Scouts Of America: “Tolerance” Isn’t Good Enough

[MagicSabbath]

The Boy Scouts made sexuality an issue when they said that youth who are openly homosexual couldn't join, and homosexuality doesn't "explore sensuality" any more than heterosexuality does.

The homosexual agenda made the Scouts an issue when they presumed to tell a private religious organization that they could not prohibit homosexuals in the Scouts.

The Boy Scouts also don't permit atheists.

 

[MagicSabbath]

First, Boy Scouts is not a specifically Christian organization, something everyone likes to ignore.

No, not everyone ignores the fact that BSA is not a Christian organization.

While some troops are definitely sponsored by Christian churches and have heavily religious activities, others are secular, and even (gasp!) non-Christian. Go to a major scout camp or gathering and Sunday services cover a variety of faiths, including (gasp!) Islam, and have for years.

Would you show us where in the Koran it says that Muslims condone homosexuality or are to?
How about in the Hebrew Bible?

 

[MagicSabbath]

Do you know what being gay means? It has nothing to do with behavior. It refers to one's attractions. The Bible does not mention being attracted to the same-sex as a sin.

Do you know what fornication is?

Fornication scriptures(A few but of course not all)

As for what God says, I don't believe he said a thing about homosexuality. The 4 verses you all butcher to condemn gays do not apply to modern day homosexuality. Every single case in the Bible condemns pagan prostitution, pederasty, and rape.

Excellent!
Please post the scriptures where God approves homosexual sex.

 

[Marius27]

The homosexual agenda made the Scouts an issue when they presumed to tell a private religious organization that they could not prohibit homosexuals in the Scouts.

The Boy Scouts also don't permit atheists.

There is no such thing as a homosexual agenda. That a religious extremist buzz term.

And there are atheists in the boy scouts.

 

[Marius27]

Do you know what fornication is?

Fornication scriptures(A few but of course not all)


Excellent!
Please post the scriptures where God approves homosexual sex.

Seeing as that topic is not permitted on this board, no. And absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The modern day concept of homosexuality did not exist in Biblical times. The Bible only discusses same-sex relationships in the context of paganism and rape. And even those are few and far between (4 non duplicate verses out of 37,000 total).

But I'm not going to waste my time having this discussion with you. Arguing this topic with conservatives is completely pointless. We will never agree. End of discussion.

 

[MagicSabbath]

There is no such thing as a homosexual agenda. That a religious extremist buzz term.

No, but extremist buzz term, is a pejorative manufactured by liberals so as to deliver a negative connotation against those who realize there is a homosexual agenda insinuating itself into all aspects of the religious and secular community. Particularly as relates to religion and their mission to destroy it's platform regarding morality and Biblical standards.

And there are atheists in the boy scouts.

Not when they took the oath that affirms God. If they took that and lied, they're not Scouts! Because they broke the moral code by lying.

One Scouts ban remains intact: Atheists





No Hebrew Bible scripture yet wherein God affirms homosexuality?

Or are you still searching for that?

 

[MagicSabbath]

Seeing as that topic is not permitted on this board no. And absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The modern day concept of homosexuality did not exist in Biblical times. The Bible only discusses same-sex relationships in the context of paganism and rape. And even those are few and far between (4 non duplicate verses out of 37,000 total).

But I'm not going to waste my time having this discussion with you. Arguing this topic with conservatives is completely pointless. We will never agree. End of discussion.

Sad dodge that simply relates you have no knowledge of.

If there are verses that relate to little girls being prepared for marriage and sex in the Hebrew scriptures, there certainly must be scriptures relating to God's opinion about same sex sex.
You made a declaration that you can't back up.
You are right. Best you stop now. Especially after your pride boasted to another member in another thread that you knew scriptures better than most anyone here. Slight correction to that I see.

 

[Marius27]

How about in the Hebrew Bible?

The Hebrew Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality in any modern context. It condemns pagan prostitution. Most Jews are pro-gay.

 

[Marius27]

Sad dodge that simply relates you have no knowledge of.

It's not a dodge. Discussing this topic is forbidden here, and I'm not yet again wasting my time going through a long explanation of the subject to someone who is close minded and not going to change their mind. I've wasted my time way too much discussing this.

If there are verses that relate to little girls being prepared for marriage and sex in the Hebrew scriptures, there certainly must be scriptures relating to God's opinion about same sex sex.

Outside of pagan worship rituals? No there isn't. The concept of humans being biologically wired to only be attracted to the same-sex was an unknown concept, and most ancient cultures did not have relationships where one partner was not abused/taken advantage of.

You made a declaration that you can't back up.
You are right. Best you stop now. Especially after your pride boasted to another member in another thread that you knew scriptures better than most anyone here. Slight correction to that I see.

I know this topic better than you ever will. But once again, it's banned on this board. I'm not going to waste my time with you when you're just going to ignore anything I post anyway.

 

[Marius27]

No Hebrew Bible scripture yet wherein God affirms homosexuality?

It wasn't a very relevant topic to discuss, seeing as sexual orientation was not discovered yet. The Hebrew Bible doesn't affirm Heliocentrism either. Does that mean you believe the Sun revolves around the Earth as the Hebrew Bible says it does?

 

[MagicSabbath]

The Hebrew Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality in any modern context. It condemns pagan prostitution. Most Jews are pro-gay.

That is not true.

 

[MagicSabbath]

It's not a dodge. Discussing this topic is forbidden here, and I'm not yet again wasting my time going through a long explanation of the subject to someone who is close minded and not going to change their mind. I've wasted my time way too much discussing this.

Outside of pagan worship rituals? No there isn't. The concept of humans being biologically wired to only be attracted to the same-sex was an unknown concept, and most ancient cultures did not have relationships where one partner was not abused/taken advantage of.

I know this topic better than you ever will. But once again, it's banned on this board. I'm not going to waste my time with you when you're just going to ignore anything I post anyway.

Oh, OK.

 

[katautumn]

Most Jews are pro-gay.

Uh, no. Seriously, do you make this stuff up as you go along? The only Jewish denomination that affirms gay and lesbian relationships is Reform Judaism. Orthodox, conservative, and most Messianic Jews believe homosexual acts violate God's law. So, unless most Jews are reformed, most Jews are not pro-gay. Maybe in America, but certainly not worldwide.

 

[Lethe]

So, unless most Jews are reformed, most Jews are not pro-gay.

Allow me to ruthlessly extrapolate your argument: Most Christians worldwide believe in witches, therefore Christians believe in witches.

 

[IanCG]

Why am I not surprised that someone who thinks there's such a thing as "gay supremecists" would be unable to to actually spell the word "supremacist".

 

[katautumn]

Allow me to ruthlessly extrapolate your argument: Most Christians worldwide believe in witches, therefore Christians believe in witches.

Not the same thing at all. We all believe gays and lesbians exist. Most of us believe they don't deserve to be beaten up, harassed, sent to an island to starve to death, etc. With that said, I gathered Marius was asserting that most Jewish people support same-sex marriage which is untrue.

 

[Cearbhall]

Uh, no. Seriously, do you make this stuff up as you go along? The only Jewish denomination that affirms gay and lesbian relationships is Reform Judaism.

The Catholic Church is explicitly against the legalization of same-sex marriage, yet 54% of American Catholics support it. Doctrine is not a statistic.

Not the same thing at all. We all believe gays and lesbians exist. Most of us believe they don't deserve to be beaten up, harassed, sent to an island to starve to death, etc. With that said, I gathered Marius was asserting that most Jewish people support same-sex marriage which is untrue.

I think 81% (pg. 24) is more than high enough to say that "most" Jewish people in the United States support the legalization of same-sex marriage. That's 11% higher than the percentage for those born in 1981 or later, for pete's sake! If others don't want to use "most" for 4/5, then let's just say 81% instead of generalizing it.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

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