Anyone else fascinated with Marx?
Do you have the title of the book by Morris that talks about Nimrod? I have to get that.
Considering the Bible mentions Nimrod extremely briefly, I wonder how this Dr. Morris managed to create an entire philosophical tradition attributed to him.
Redac said:So how much actual Marx have you read? And where are you getting all this stuff about Satanism?
At this point I'm sort of a quasi-Marxist anyway; kinda flirting with it, so to speak. Obviously I've come to far different conclusions than you about the man's work.
bricklayer said:I want to say "The Genesis Record". It's a GREAT book. One of the best I've ever read.
Henry Morris
Richard Wurmbrand
I've did a lot of background searching on Marx and he was quite the suspicious character.
You can make whatever conclusions about me you want, I could care less.
Considering the Bible mentions Nimrod extremely briefly, I wonder how this Dr. Morris managed to create an entire philosophical tradition attributed to him.
Gadarene said:Given that they have to make up entire villainous backstories for a scientific theory they don't agree with, some creationists really just come across as irrationally scared of the idea of evolution.
Henry Morris
Richard Wurmbrand
I've did a lot of background searching on Marx and he was quite the suspicious character.
You can make whatever conclusions about me you want, I could care less.
In his life Marx was a dead beat dad, a poser, a liar, an ungrateful son, an unfaithful husband. Two of his children starved to death because he thought he was too good for work. He was lazy, phony and disliked by virtually all who knew him. He was rash, offensive and completely egotistical. If not for his parents, his wife's parents and Engels, he would have starved. He died relatively unknown. His work was misused, even by his standards.
Marx lived for ten years in London at the same time as a truly great thinker on the very same subjects, John Stuart Mill.
When you get your fill of Marx's folly, read "On Liberty" by J.S. Mill.
Marx was a bum who couldn't even hold a job. It's no wonder that those who employed his economics set into motion some of histories worst episodes. If you want to build a nation of nonworking bums, employ Marxism.
Not seeing anything there that shows how his ideas are wrong. Just character assassination.
Funny that you can admit his work was misused even while recommending tall tales about evolution, Marx and Nimrod.
Even if all this stuff about his personality is true - and that is far from established - it has basically nothing to do with Marxism as an analytic tool. Marx was not some infallible prophet or perfect man.In his life Marx was a dead beat dad, a poser, a liar, an ungrateful son, an unfaithful husband. Two of his children starved to death because he thought he was too good for work. He was lazy, phony and disliked by virtually all who knew him. He was rash, offensive and completely egotistical. If not for his parents, his wife's parents and Engels, he would have starved. He died relatively unknown. His work was misused, even by his standards.
You never struck me as an empiricist or a utilitarian like your man Mill. Who knew?Marx lived for ten years in London at the same time as a truly great thinker on the very same subjects, John Stuart Mill.
When you get your fill of Marx's folly, read "On Liberty" by J.S. Mill.
Marx was a bum who couldn't even hold a job. It's no wonder that those who employed his economics set into motion some of histories worst episodes. If you want to build a nation of nonworking bums, employ Marxism.
You never struck me as an empiricist or a utilitarian like your man Mill. Who knew?.
If we're just counting bodies and messed-up nations, I'll see your Soviet bloc (mostly Stalin and his ilk, not Marx, btw) and raise you sub-Saharan Africa after the imperial powers decided they'd had enough and left. So much for capitalism, huh?Not quite sue Marx was wrong?
There are millions of starved, tortured and broken people and broken nations that prove Marx was wrong. Every time his ideas are employed the results are horrific.
Marx's ideas have the body count that proves them wrong.
Marx's ideas come down to - From each according to their ability to each according to their needs. This has proved to be among the very worst ways to organize a society.
Mill's ideas come down to - from each according to their will to each according to their ability. This has proved to be the least worst way to organize a society.
"Communist Manifesto" and "On Libetry"[citation needed]
"Communist Manifesto" and "On Libetry"
All this tells me is that you've never read the Communist Manifesto, and probably never read any Marx. The "to each" quote comes from Marx's Critique of the Gotha Program, written in 1875.
If you're gonna talk about Marxism the way you are, it would behoove you to at least get your stuff straight.