How should we then live concerning gays?

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I didn't say the only things to be ashamed of are sins, rather that one should be ashamed of sin, including gay behavior. It's a free country. Be ashamed of blonde hair, if you want. Be ashamed of your pink car or your bad landscaping, idc. But, be ashamed of sin, for sure. Don't exalt it and ask us to exalt it with you.

If one doesn't cut the grass for a week, the whole neighborhood is after them. Another comes out of the closet and they're some sort of hero. This sort of thinking won't end well for us. Shun the gays, stand up and say it's bad behavior and make it clear Christian's (and hopefully soon everyone) doesn't appreciate the sinfully bad behavior either.

When gay behavior is better than longish grass, we're in big trouble.
Shame on you for being ashamed. ^_^
 
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yes, I know the song and dance zaac. You say homosexuals are a sin, I say they are not.

I didn't say homosexuals are a sin. Homosexuals are people. People are not sin.

The homosexual acts are sin because God says so, not because I say so. And if you disagree with that, take it up with God. Or maybe you've got another link of "I feels" where some man who isn't omnipotent and omniscient has decided that the homosexual acts aren't sinful that you want to point us to.

This is just another 'homophobia' thread. Take a look, how many Homosexual threads do we need, must be the homophobes are running scared.

Yes, the liberal anti-Christ, pro-homosexual everything types are out in force today.
 
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I didn't say homosexuals are a sin. Homosexuals are people. People are not sin.
so, homosexuals are people, people marry, then homosexuals should be able to marry.

The homosexual acts are sin because God says so, not because I say so. And if you disagree with that, take it up with God. Or maybe you've got another link of "I feels" where some man who isn't omnipotent and omniscient has decided that the homosexual acts aren't sinful that you want to point us to.
yep, plenty of links to refute your verbiage. Especially ones that counter zaac christology. ^_^



Yes, the liberal anti-Christ, pro-homosexual everything types are out in force today.
I haven't seen any homosexuals today, would you settle for one anti-christ. ( have a mirror handy)^_^
 
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One of my brothers is.... HOMOSEXUAL ....see, I've written the word in big letters and I'm not afraid to say it.... I... LOVE ... my brother very much...he's kind and gentle and loving. He's hadn't been in a "relationship" for over 20 yrs. But ALL of us have faults and sins...and that makes him no different from me.

What a commendable attitude you have! Having a gay sibling is maybe a blessing-in-disguise if you would otherwise be callous to gay people and their plight.
 
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so, homosexuals are people, people marry, then homosexuals should be able to marry.

People murder too.
People rape.
People molest.
People steal.
People commit adultery.

In your liberal version of the world where the secular supersedes God they might be able to marry. But for the folks preaching God's word, marriage will remain a covenant between God and a husband and his one wife.

yep, plenty of links to refute your verbiage. Especially ones that counter zaac christology. ^_^

You can name it what you want. Anybody with eyes can see, that your problem, as is the majority of liberals, is with God and His word.

You can set it up and try to convince yourself that it's my word, but you and your links are trying to rewrite God's word, not mine.



I haven't seen any homosexuals today, would you settle for one anti-christ. ( have a mirror handy)^_^

If you've got a mirror handy, I'll suggest you use it. Pull out a Bible while you're at it and sit that next to one of your links.
 
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What a commendable attitude you have! Having a gay sibling is maybe a blessing-in-disguise if you would otherwise be callous to gay people and their plight.

Grannie Annie has said the same thing that most Christians say in identifying them as sinners. It's them and liberals who seem to be set on convincing folks that their sins aren't sin.
 
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Be extremely careful when lecturing people on their sins.

Who is lecturing? Just calling it what God calls it. And the liberals and gays have a problem with that. But that's par for the course.

If God speaks against it, liberals seem to be for it. If God speaks for it, liberals seem to be against it.

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness....
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!
Isaiah 5:20-21
 
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I would call it what it is hating sin.....not homophobe.

Since God said homosexuality is a sin I will stay with what God said about that abomination ( homosexuality ).
Can you give me the Hebrew or Greek spelling of homosexual as it is in the original texts? Bet you are like me in that we detest misrepresentations and misinterpretations, right?
 
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Mark 12:30:31
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.

James 2:10:13
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
 
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I think it is all much more difficult. It seems clear that some passages in the LAW speak against homosexual behavior and what Paul writes in Romans seems to also. However, there are other things in the LAW that one would receive the death penalty for that I suspect all of us would be appalled at. And what Paul writes 'God gave them up to a debased mind' does not fit with the few homosexuals I know. Or at least not any more so than many heterosexuals. Based on this I can't come up a rational understanding. On the other hand, some of the things that Oscar Wild wrote I would consider him as one with a depraved mind.
 
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Can you give me the Hebrew or Greek spelling of homosexual as it is in the original texts? Bet you are like me in that we detest misrepresentations and misinterpretations, right?

Looks like you're typing in English. So unless you're coming in here typing in Hebrew or Greek, what does anyone need to give that to you for?^_^
 
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I think it is all much more difficult. It seems clear that some passages in the LAW speak against homosexual behavior and what Paul writes in Romans seems to also. However, there are other things in the LAW that one would receive the death penalty for that I suspect all of us would be appalled at. And what Paul writes 'God gave them up to a debased mind' does not fit with the few homosexuals I know. Or at least not any more so than many heterosexuals. Based on this I can't come up a rational understanding. On the other hand, some of the things that Oscar Wild wrote I would consider him as one with a depraved mind.

Sin is sin because GOD says so.:thumbsup:
 
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Looks like you're typing in English. So unless you're coming in here typing in Hebrew or Greek, what does anyone need to give that to you for?
Because I was wanting to find the truth without any misrepresentations from traditional pulpit rhetoric. Seems you haven't any pertinent information about it that's why you come up with some immature off the wall elementary thought.
 
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Just how should I, living in America in 2012 behave toward a gay person.
That depends.

If they're believers of God,

read 1 Cor. 5:9-13

If they're not believers, then show gentleness.

How would you? If a gay person was being harassed, would you step in to stop it. I hope I would.
Certainly.

Should gay persons be restricted to where they live and what jobs they can do? I think not. What do you say?
Merely containing wickedness is insufficient. Permitting it is not acceptable either (except in certain circumstances). Change of mind is the necessary solution, but that cannot come by duress.

Until then, all one can do is pray and hope.
 
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