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The Abomination that Causes Desolation is Solomon’s Temple on Mount Hermon


Mount Hermon is where the fallen angels descended to Earth and mated with humans. These ‘watchers’ according to the book of Enoch descended to Earth, saw that Earth women were good looking, and contrary to God’s will took wives for themselves. They taught their human wives astrology, sorcery and how to apply primitive makeup. The Leader of the watchers Samjaza, led the others into this rebellion against God’s law and they all swore an oath to do this work of evil, renaming the mountain to Hermon as a remembrance of this oath.



Jesus referred to Mt Hermon as “The Gates of Hell.” Israel captured the territory where Mt Hermon is located in the Golan Heights in the Six Day War. “Mount Hermon or the “forbidden place” is located coincidentally enough in the Danite Antichrist‘s territory in Caanan (Israel)
map_of_12_tribes.jpg



The tribe of Dan which the Antichrist will come from, moved to this area during the days of the Judges, and adopted the Canaanite worship of these angels. It was Idolatry that worshiped Satan. In fact, Baal and Ashtaroth were Canaanite deities, whose origin was Mount Hermon! The book of Judges even calls Mount Hermon “Baalhermon,” saying:
“Namely, five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites, and the Sidonians, and the Hivites that dwelt in mount Lebanon, from mount Baalhermon unto the entering in of Hamath” (Judges 3:3).
Furthermore, the fallen angels living on and around Mount Hermon already planning for future deception had the audacity to steal a name that God had given to Mount Moriah — Mount Sion! Moses wrote:
“And they possessed his [Sihon’s] land, and the land of Og king of Bashan, two kings of the Amorites, which were on this side Jordan toward the sun rising; From Aroer, which is by the bank of the river Arnon, even unto Mount Sion, which is Hermon” (Deut. 4:47,48).
My Zion is Mount Moriah. God’s chosen mountain in the old testament. Mt Sion is Satan’s deception! So Sion should not be replaced with Zion in modern (per)versions of the Bible. Zion is not even mentioned in the New Testament (KJV); But in the Old Testament the law comes out of Zion.
Mount Hermon is a very large triple peaked mountain. Were the pyramids built by the Satanic Pagan Egyptians a representation of Mount Hermon?


Pyramid2.jpg

From the book Murder of Reality – Pierre Sabak
The Greek word ‘puramid’ according to the Oxford English dictionary is of unknown etymology. On close inspection its root is derived from the Semitic compound ‘par-o-amud’ (pharaoh’s pillar). In Rabbinic tradition for example ‘amud’ (a pillar) is connected to the oral tradition ‘le’lamad’ (to-teach). Traditionally the pyramid indicates levels of initiation correlated with the holy city of Thebes and the propagation of the Royal heir. A center of knowledge its priesthood preserved the pharaonic bloodline originating from the snake a fallen angel.
The pyramidal phallus is a symbol of fecundity and knowledge worn on the pharaoh’s loincloth (apron) to signify the Royal harem. In addition the idea of Royal copulation equated with the pyramid is reaffirmed in the Arabic. ‘Harim’ is transliterated in English as ‘harem’, (a sanctuary or woman’s quarters) etymological to harm. The strict translation of the Arabic word ‘harim’ means (a prohibited place) and is from the verbal root ‘harama’ (prohibited), designated as ‘haram’ (a pyramid).
‘Haram’ (pyramid) also means ‘haram’ (unlawful) and is symmetrical in Hebrew to ‘herem’ (curse) connoting ‘ha-ramm’ (grief). The pyramids, according to cultic tradition, are said to be accursed and are linked to sexual indiscretion, attributed originally with Mount Hermon – its summit paired with the rebellion of the fallen angels, castigated through mortal intercourse. ‘Hermon’ details human angelic copulation, captured in the Semitic pun ‘hourmin’ (virgin sex), listed in Greek with ‘hormon’ (to impel), suggesting the ‘rapist’, defined as ‘ha’mon’ (the host).
‘Haram’ by definition indicates the ‘pyramid’ is not a tomb as advocated by the Egyptologists, but a monument to the fallen Shatani and to their leader Shemyaza (Azazel), who led the assault against Mount Hermon. Connection between ‘haram’ (pyramid) and ‘Hermon’ is reinforced by Shemyaza’s epithet. A deity his name is extracted from the verbal stem ‘sh’m’ (pillar or high) and is combined with the suffix ‘yaza’ derived from the Zend word ‘yazd’ or ‘yazata’ meaning (an angel or divine being). Sexual transgressions between the angels and mankind are matched with the destruction of the earth, accredited to the fallen progeny. This cataclysmic event is commemorated as the pyramid – a type of harem used to propagate the Royal bloodline.
Using the old Paris Meridian, Mt Hermon lies exactly at 33.33 degrees north and 33.33 degrees east. It is also 2012 miles from the equator and 2012 miles from the Paris Meridian. The Paris Meridian is the meridian to which many ancient structures are aligned. The number of nautical miles in 33.33 degrees of the earth is 2012.9. This corresponds to the year, month day that (December 21, 2012) the ancient Mayans believed their calendar would end. Many believe that December 21, 2012 is the date that the “sons of God” will return to earth and establish a new world order.



For more about the 2012 Egyptian God Ra deception and how it relates to end times prophecies: David Wilcock the Satanist


Places of execution located on 33 degree latitude
Death Row – Mississippi : Located in Parchman, Mississippi in Sun Flower, County. Latitude N 33.92 .
Death Row – Georgia : Located in Jackson, Georgia , Latitude N 33.29
Death Row – Georgia: Atlanta (for Women) Latitude N 33.65 (again 6+5=11).
Death Row – South Carolina: Ridgeville, SC Latitude N 33.0326 ( 3+2+6=11).
Rawalpindi District Jail, Rawalpindi, Pakistan: (Military Capital) Latitude N 33.35 -
Death Row – House of Horrors: ABU GHRAIB PRISON, IRAQ Latitude N 33.29 (Identical to Georgia Death Row for men).
The Death Row for Lebanon is Roumieh Prison: north of Lebanon at -roughly- 33.60 N.



There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry. Once you understand the belief Satanists have about the number 33, you will understand certain events in history more completely — for example, when Adolf Hitler planned his suicide, he decided to shoot himself on April 30, 1945, at precisely 3:30pm. He believed that this ’333′ would allow him to pass quickly through the reincarnation cycle so he could come back to earth as the Antichrist.
33 is the most mysterious and significant of numbers to an occultist. It is found over and over again in the stories of the Bible and elsewhere. King David reigned in Jerusalem for 33 years. The first temple of Solomon stood for 33 years before being pillaged by King Shishak of Egypt. The Temple of Solomon was a cube which measured 33 and 1/3 feet. There are 33 symbols of the Masonic Order and one of their symbols depicts a double-headed eagle crowned with an equilateral triangle: inside of this is the number 33. Jesus Christ was 33 when he was crucified, he rose again 3 days later. An occultist assigns the number ’333′ to “death, resurrection, and ascension”, and consider it to be most powerful.
When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong–let the reader understand–then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains (Mark 13:14).
Rebuilding Solomon’s temple on Mount Hermon is the abomination that causes desolation. Since the New Covenant God no longer has need of temples.
(Acts 7:48) the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands
(1 Cor 3:16) Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
He also no longer needs sacrifice because Jesus payed for our sins! This temple will not be worshiping the God of Israel it will be worshiping Satan. This fits in with the Israel is Mystery Babylon theory. Also just as prophecy required WISDOM or UNDERSTANDING, depending on translation, to figure out what the Mark of the Beast (Seal of Solomon) is so does the prophecy concerning the ‘abomination that causes desolation.’ Once again all roads lead back to Solomon! Who asked for WISDOM from God as a reward before he turned to idolatry. WISDOM is the clue to all these prophecies!
Revelation 13:18
Here is WISDOM. Let him that hath UNDERSTANDING count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him UNDERSTAND)
Daniel 11:31-37.
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him. Those who are WISE will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered.
1:Kings 4:30
And Solomon’s WISDOM excelled the WIDOM of all the children of the east country, and all the WIDOM of Egypt.
Excerpt from Mark of the Beast article.
According to 1 Kings 11:4 Solomon’s “wives turned his heart after other gods”, their own national deities, to whom Solomon built temples, thus incurring divine anger and retribution in the form of the division of the kingdom after Solomon’s death. (1 Kings 11:9-13)


1 Kings 11 describes Solomon’s descent into idolatry, particularly his turning after Ashtoreth, the goddess of the Sidonians, and after Milcom, the abomination of the Ammonites. In Deuteronomy 17:16-17, a king is commanded not to multiply horses or wives, neither greatly multiply to himself gold or silver. Solomon sins in all three of these areas. Solomon collects 666 talents of gold each year, (1 Kings 10:14) a huge amount of money for a small nation like Israel. Solomon gathers a large number of horses and chariots and even brings in horses from Egypt. Just as Deuteronomy 17 warns, collecting horses and chariots takes Israel back to Egypt. Finally, Solomon marries foreign women, and these women turn Solomon to other gods.
And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart had turned away from the Lord, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice and had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods. But he did not keep what the LORD commanded. Therefore the Lord said to Solomon, “Since this has been your practice and you have not kept my covenant and my statutes that I have commanded you, I will surely tear the kingdom from you and will give it to your servant. Yet for the sake of David your father I will not do it in your days, but I will tear it out of the hand of your son. However, I will not tear away all the kingdom, but I will give one tribe to your son, for the sake of David my servant and for the sake of Jerusalem that I have chosen.
Look carefully at Dan. 9:27
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
Now, note this variant from the NIV footnote, which means that at least one of the manuscripts they considered had this alternate reading for Dan. 9:27. “And one who causes desolation will come upon the pinnacle of the abominable [temple], until the end that is decreed is poured out on the desolated [city].” My main concern is with the word “pinnacle,” which could mean completion. In that case, the reading could be “And one who (or a thing which) causes desolation will come on the completion of the abominable temple, until the end that is decreed is poured out on the desolated city.”


It seems that what is being proclaimed “abominable” here is the temple itself, and perhaps what causes the desolation could be the temple itself.


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If you don't know that you will be deceived end times. You're gonna have to make the choice are blacks the lost tribes or are whites. Read my site and you'll see why. You don't want to be one of those Christians that are described in the parable of the ten virgins who god tells to depart because he knows you not.

Make sure your lamp is filled with oil

Take care

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A) I don't believe that "white people" or "black people" are the "lost tribes". That's not a choice I have to make. Most likely the northern tribes were assimilated throughout the near east by the Assyrians, but not all. The Samaritans are most likely a remnant of people from the Northern Kingdom, they themselves say they're from the Tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. It's possible that the Nasranis of India are descended from Israelites of the Northern Kingdom, same with the Ethiopian Jews who claim descent from Dan. There's more stock in this than any idea that white northern Europeans are Israelites, which is pure nonsense.

B) The idea that any of this is tied into the "end times" is pure balderdash and has nothing to do with historic Christian thought or biblical teaching. I'm white, of mostly Irish and German heritage, my ancestors were Druids and followers of Norse/Germanic paganism. The reason why my ancestors became Christian is due to the missionary activity of people like St. Patrick and St. Boniface, apostles to the Irish and Germans respectively who brought the Gospel to my pagan (not Israelite) ancestors.

There's nothing wrong admitting one's ancestors were pagans, Abraham's father was pagan and he was called by God out from Ur to be the literal and spiritual father of many people.

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The Abomination that Causes Desolation is Solomon’s Temple on Mount Hermon


Mount Hermon is where the fallen angels descended to Earth and mated with humans. These ‘watchers’ according to the book of Enoch descended to Earth, saw that Earth women were good looking, and contrary to God’s will took wives for themselves. They taught their human wives astrology, sorcery and how to apply primitive makeup. The Leader of the watchers Samjaza, led the others into this rebellion against God’s law and they all swore an oath to do this work of evil, renaming the mountain to Hermon as a remembrance of this oath.



Jesus referred to Mt Hermon as “The Gates of Hell.” Israel captured the territory where Mt Hermon is located in the Golan Heights in the Six Day War. “Mount Hermon or the “forbidden place” is located coincidentally enough in the Danite Antichrist‘s territory in Caanan (Israel)
map_of_12_tribes.jpg



The tribe of Dan which the Antichrist will come from, moved to this area during the days of the Judges, and adopted the Canaanite worship of these angels. It was Idolatry that worshiped Satan. In fact, Baal and Ashtaroth were Canaanite deities, whose origin was Mount Hermon! The book of Judges even calls Mount Hermon “Baalhermon,” saying:
“Namely, five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites, and the Sidonians, and the Hivites that dwelt in mount Lebanon, from mount Baalhermon unto the entering in of Hamath” (Judges 3:3).
Furthermore, the fallen angels living on and around Mount Hermon already planning for future deception had the audacity to steal a name that God had given to Mount Moriah — Mount Sion! Moses wrote:
“And they possessed his [Sihon’s] land, and the land of Og king of Bashan, two kings of the Amorites, which were on this side Jordan toward the sun rising; From Aroer, which is by the bank of the river Arnon, even unto Mount Sion, which is Hermon” (Deut. 4:47,48).
My Zion is Mount Moriah. God’s chosen mountain in the old testament. Mt Sion is Satan’s deception! So Sion should not be replaced with Zion in modern (per)versions of the Bible. Zion is not even mentioned in the New Testament (KJV); But in the Old Testament the law comes out of Zion.
Mount Hermon is a very large triple peaked mountain. Were the pyramids built by the Satanic Pagan Egyptians a representation of Mount Hermon?


Pyramid2.jpg

From the book Murder of Reality – Pierre Sabak
The Greek word ‘puramid’ according to the Oxford English dictionary is of unknown etymology. On close inspection its root is derived from the Semitic compound ‘par-o-amud’ (pharaoh’s pillar). In Rabbinic tradition for example ‘amud’ (a pillar) is connected to the oral tradition ‘le’lamad’ (to-teach). Traditionally the pyramid indicates levels of initiation correlated with the holy city of Thebes and the propagation of the Royal heir. A center of knowledge its priesthood preserved the pharaonic bloodline originating from the snake a fallen angel.
The pyramidal phallus is a symbol of fecundity and knowledge worn on the pharaoh’s loincloth (apron) to signify the Royal harem. In addition the idea of Royal copulation equated with the pyramid is reaffirmed in the Arabic. ‘Harim’ is transliterated in English as ‘harem’, (a sanctuary or woman’s quarters) etymological to harm. The strict translation of the Arabic word ‘harim’ means (a prohibited place) and is from the verbal root ‘harama’ (prohibited), designated as ‘haram’ (a pyramid).
‘Haram’ (pyramid) also means ‘haram’ (unlawful) and is symmetrical in Hebrew to ‘herem’ (curse) connoting ‘ha-ramm’ (grief). The pyramids, according to cultic tradition, are said to be accursed and are linked to sexual indiscretion, attributed originally with Mount Hermon – its summit paired with the rebellion of the fallen angels, castigated through mortal intercourse. ‘Hermon’ details human angelic copulation, captured in the Semitic pun ‘hourmin’ (virgin sex), listed in Greek with ‘hormon’ (to impel), suggesting the ‘rapist’, defined as ‘ha’mon’ (the host).
‘Haram’ by definition indicates the ‘pyramid’ is not a tomb as advocated by the Egyptologists, but a monument to the fallen Shatani and to their leader Shemyaza (Azazel), who led the assault against Mount Hermon. Connection between ‘haram’ (pyramid) and ‘Hermon’ is reinforced by Shemyaza’s epithet. A deity his name is extracted from the verbal stem ‘sh’m’ (pillar or high) and is combined with the suffix ‘yaza’ derived from the Zend word ‘yazd’ or ‘yazata’ meaning (an angel or divine being). Sexual transgressions between the angels and mankind are matched with the destruction of the earth, accredited to the fallen progeny. This cataclysmic event is commemorated as the pyramid – a type of harem used to propagate the Royal bloodline.
Using the old Paris Meridian, Mt Hermon lies exactly at 33.33 degrees north and 33.33 degrees east. It is also 2012 miles from the equator and 2012 miles from the Paris Meridian. The Paris Meridian is the meridian to which many ancient structures are aligned. The number of nautical miles in 33.33 degrees of the earth is 2012.9. This corresponds to the year, month day that (December 21, 2012) the ancient Mayans believed their calendar would end. Many believe that December 21, 2012 is the date that the “sons of God” will return to earth and establish a new world order.



For more about the 2012 Egyptian God Ra deception and how it relates to end times prophecies: David Wilcock the Satanist


Places of execution located on 33 degree latitude
Death Row – Mississippi : Located in Parchman, Mississippi in Sun Flower, County. Latitude N 33.92 .
Death Row – Georgia : Located in Jackson, Georgia , Latitude N 33.29
Death Row – Georgia: Atlanta (for Women) Latitude N 33.65 (again 6+5=11).
Death Row – South Carolina: Ridgeville, SC Latitude N 33.0326 ( 3+2+6=11).
Rawalpindi District Jail, Rawalpindi, Pakistan: (Military Capital) Latitude N 33.35 -
Death Row – House of Horrors: ABU GHRAIB PRISON, IRAQ Latitude N 33.29 (Identical to Georgia Death Row for men).
The Death Row for Lebanon is Roumieh Prison: north of Lebanon at -roughly- 33.60 N.



There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry. Once you understand the belief Satanists have about the number 33, you will understand certain events in history more completely — for example, when Adolf Hitler planned his suicide, he decided to shoot himself on April 30, 1945, at precisely 3:30pm. He believed that this ’333′ would allow him to pass quickly through the reincarnation cycle so he could come back to earth as the Antichrist.
33 is the most mysterious and significant of numbers to an occultist. It is found over and over again in the stories of the Bible and elsewhere. King David reigned in Jerusalem for 33 years. The first temple of Solomon stood for 33 years before being pillaged by King Shishak of Egypt. The Temple of Solomon was a cube which measured 33 and 1/3 feet. There are 33 symbols of the Masonic Order and one of their symbols depicts a double-headed eagle crowned with an equilateral triangle: inside of this is the number 33. Jesus Christ was 33 when he was crucified, he rose again 3 days later. An occultist assigns the number ’333′ to “death, resurrection, and ascension”, and consider it to be most powerful.
When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong–let the reader understand–then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains (Mark 13:14).
Rebuilding Solomon’s temple on Mount Hermon is the abomination that causes desolation. Since the New Covenant God no longer has need of temples.
(Acts 7:48) the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands
(1 Cor 3:16) Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
He also no longer needs sacrifice because Jesus payed for our sins! This temple will not be worshiping the God of Israel it will be worshiping Satan. This fits in with the Israel is Mystery Babylon theory. Also just as prophecy required WISDOM or UNDERSTANDING, depending on translation, to figure out what the Mark of the Beast (Seal of Solomon) is so does the prophecy concerning the ‘abomination that causes desolation.’ Once again all roads lead back to Solomon! Who asked for WISDOM from God as a reward before he turned to idolatry. WISDOM is the clue to all these prophecies!
Revelation 13:18
Here is WISDOM. Let him that hath UNDERSTANDING count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him UNDERSTAND)
Daniel 11:31-37.
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him. Those who are WISE will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered.
1:Kings 4:30
And Solomon’s WISDOM excelled the WIDOM of all the children of the east country, and all the WIDOM of Egypt.
Excerpt from Mark of the Beast article.
According to 1 Kings 11:4 Solomon’s “wives turned his heart after other gods”, their own national deities, to whom Solomon built temples, thus incurring divine anger and retribution in the form of the division of the kingdom after Solomon’s death. (1 Kings 11:9-13)


1 Kings 11 describes Solomon’s descent into idolatry, particularly his turning after Ashtoreth, the goddess of the Sidonians, and after Milcom, the abomination of the Ammonites. In Deuteronomy 17:16-17, a king is commanded not to multiply horses or wives, neither greatly multiply to himself gold or silver. Solomon sins in all three of these areas. Solomon collects 666 talents of gold each year, (1 Kings 10:14) a huge amount of money for a small nation like Israel. Solomon gathers a large number of horses and chariots and even brings in horses from Egypt. Just as Deuteronomy 17 warns, collecting horses and chariots takes Israel back to Egypt. Finally, Solomon marries foreign women, and these women turn Solomon to other gods.
And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart had turned away from the Lord, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice and had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods. But he did not keep what the LORD commanded. Therefore the Lord said to Solomon, “Since this has been your practice and you have not kept my covenant and my statutes that I have commanded you, I will surely tear the kingdom from you and will give it to your servant. Yet for the sake of David your father I will not do it in your days, but I will tear it out of the hand of your son. However, I will not tear away all the kingdom, but I will give one tribe to your son, for the sake of David my servant and for the sake of Jerusalem that I have chosen.
Look carefully at Dan. 9:27
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
Now, note this variant from the NIV footnote, which means that at least one of the manuscripts they considered had this alternate reading for Dan. 9:27. “And one who causes desolation will come upon the pinnacle of the abominable [temple], until the end that is decreed is poured out on the desolated [city].” My main concern is with the word “pinnacle,” which could mean completion. In that case, the reading could be “And one who (or a thing which) causes desolation will come on the completion of the abominable temple, until the end that is decreed is poured out on the desolated city.”


It seems that what is being proclaimed “abominable” here is the temple itself, and perhaps what causes the desolation could be the temple itself.


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Israel Mystery Babylon
Mark of the Beast
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THIS IN INCREDIBLE STUDY MATERIAL!!!!!


I have been researching similar topics as this, especially of the significance of the Danites, Edomites, and Khazars in the end times, posing as Hebrews.

Good stuff, there is a serious cosmic conspiracy going on on earth that most people choose to ignore because it is so sinister! The magnitude and depth of it is almost unfathomable. I think it is good you are showing the audience some insight on that very deep-rooted spiritual conspiracy.

No. No it's not.

It's idle speculation without any biblical or good theological basis.

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A) I don't believe that "white people" or "black people" are the "lost tribes". That's not a choice I have to make. Most likely the northern tribes were assimilated throughout the near east by the Assyrians, but not all. The Samaritans are most likely a remnant of people from the Northern Kingdom, they themselves say they're from the Tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. It's possible that the Nasranis of India are descended from Israelites of the Northern Kingdom, same with the Ethiopian Jews who claim descent from Dan. There's more stock in this than any idea that white northern Europeans are Israelites, which is pure nonsense.

B) The idea that any of this is tied into the "end times" is pure balderdash and has nothing to do with historic Christian thought or biblical teaching. I'm white, of mostly Irish and German heritage, my ancestors were Druids and followers of Norse/Germanic paganism. The reason why my ancestors became Christian is due to the missionary activity of people like St. Patrick and St. Boniface, apostles to the Irish and Germans respectively who brought the Gospel to my pagan (not Israelite) ancestors.

There's nothing wrong admitting one's ancestors were pagans, Abraham's father was pagan and he was called by God out from Ur to be the literal and spiritual father of many people.

-CryptoLutheran

Yes it is a choice you will have to make... The Mark of the Beast is a Freewill choice that everyone has to make. There is no pretribulation rapture that will whisk you away so you wont have to make a decision. God is going to test you to see if you really know him... Have you ever read the bible? God is a racialist! He believes each race should keep to their respective territory. He instilled each race with nationalism and different languages so they would not mix. He doesn't want people to race mix 'knowing strange flesh.' Israelites are his chosen people. Obviously he is racialist by definition because he prefers one group to another. It doesn't mean that he hates everyone else, after all Jesus opened the door to salvation to all gentiles as well, it just means that Jacob (who's name was changed to Israel) represented what he thought was best about mankind...


Will you be foolish or wise?

Then the Kingdom of Heaven will be like ten virgins, who took their lamps, and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. Those who were foolish, when they took their lamps, took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. Now while the bridegroom delayed, they all slumbered and slept. But at midnight there was a cry, "Behold! The bridegroom is coming! Come out to meet him!" Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. The foolish said to the wise, "Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out." But the wise answered, saying, "What if there isn't enough for us and you? You go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves." While they went away to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. Afterward the other virgins also came, saying, "Lord, Lord, open to us." But he answered, "Most certainly I tell you, I don't know you." Watch therefore, for you don't know the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

The parable does not criticise the virgins for sleeping, since both groups do that,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Ten_Virgins#cite_note-BW-1 but for being unprepared. It is not clear exactly what form this lack of preparation takes: the foolish virgins may have taken insufficient oil or, if they light their lamps or torches for the first time when the bridegroom arrives (having slept through the previous hours of darkness), they may have brought no oil at all[ (it is also unclear as to whether the foolish virgins succeed in purchasing any oil that night:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Ten_Virgins#cite_note-5 most shops would not have been openhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Ten_Virgins#cite_note-6).
The parable is not written in praise of virginity,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Ten_Virgins#cite_note-CE-3 and indeed Louis of Granada, in his The Sinner's Guide of 1555, writes "No one makes intercession with the Bridegroom for the five foolish virgins who, after despising the pleasures of the flesh and stifling in their hearts the fire of concupiscence, nay, after observing the great counsel of virginity, neglected the precept of humility and became inflated with pride on account of their virginity."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Ten_Virgins#cite_note-8
Spencer W. Kimball discussed the difference between the wise and the foolish virgins and why they could not share the oil: "This was not selfishness or unkindness. The kind of oil that is needed to illuminate the way and light up the darkness is not shareable. How can one share obedience to the principle of tithing; a mind at peace from righteous living; an accumulation of knowledge? How can one share faith or testimony? How can one share attitudes or chastity.... Each must obtain that kind of oil for himself.... In the parable, oil can be purchased at the market. In our lives the oil of preparedness is accumulated drop by drop in righteous living. Fasting, family prayer... control of bodily appetites, preaching the gospel, studying the scriptures-each act of dedication and obedience is a drop added to our store. Deeds of kindness, payment of offerings and tithes, chaste thoughts and actions, marriage in the covenant for eternity-these, too, contribute importantly to the oil with which we can at midnight refuel our exhausted lamps."[10][11]



The reason why you need to know who Israel is (Jewish and White people) as long as you also realize Israel is mystery babylon you will not be deceived end times. All gentiles need to know this information as well. Any other native americans or mixed like myself or blacks etc. It's vital that they understand this because Satan is going to play off of every races collective issues, black's ego, white guilt which he has conditioned into whites for the past 50 years since the Hippy Revolution where everything became opposite. Any social 'progression' since then was brought about by Satan. Feminism, multiculturalism, homosexuality, drug culture etc.

Satan's end times deceptions depend on knowing who exactly Israelites are.

1) Thomas Plantard is the direct descendent of Jesus. (Thomas Plantard is the Antichrist)
2) The Vatican or America is Mystery Babylon. (Israel is Mystery Babylon, The Vatican and America are counterfeits)
3) Jews are Kenites (descending from Cain / Khazar’s. Modern Jews are in fact Jews descending from the tribe of Judah)
4) In 2012 ‘aliens’ will pose as our helpers and Saviors and back up Thomas Plantard (The Antichrist’s) claim to the throne. (These aliens are not aliens at all but are the 6 fingered evil ‘giants’ the bible talks about as being offspring of fallen angels (Nephilim) and humans.
5) Blacks are the lost tribes of Israel (Whites are the lost tribes)
6) The Mark of the Beast is the microchip (The microchip is Satan’s counterfeit mark, the real mark is the Hexagram)
7) Pretribulation rapture (Satan promotes this because when no one is whisked away many Christians will lose faith)
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The Antichrist will destroy the New World Order (Freemasons, Rothschilds and Rockefellers will allow themselves to be sacrificed)

I suggest you watch a brilliant black Reverend James Manning he's black and acknowledges that God is racialist...
ATLAHWorldwide's Channel - YouTube
 
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And, most likely Black/Brown people are the lost tribes, mainly because they are the ones that fit the description of God's judgment in Deuteronomy 28:15-68

But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.

Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.

Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.

The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.

The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.

And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.
The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.

The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.

The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:

And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.

Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.

Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.

Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.

The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:

So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.

The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.

And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.

Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.

Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.

Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.

Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.

All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.

The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.


He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:

And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.

And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:

So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:

So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.

The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,

And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.

If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;

Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.

Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God.

And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.

And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:

And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:


In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you."
 
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No. No it's not.

It's idle speculation without any biblical or good theological basis.

-CryptoLutheran

That is a gross opinion, but your opinion nonetheless.

By the way, objectively define a "good" theological basis. Good according to whose standard?
 
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Doy you know that for sure? How much time have you spent researching it? Are you willing to risk your salvation? Its interesting because Jesus said preach only unto the lost children of Israel. None of the apostles went to Africa!
http://cgca.net/coglinks/wcglit/hh_apostles.txt



White Caucasians are the Lost Tribes of Israel « whitesareisrael

God loves all his children but he chose Israelites as his chosen people. Jacob’s, whos name was changed to Israel, represented what God thought was best in man kind.
There are 3 main racial groupings according to scientists based on skull shape and hair texture evidence.
Caucasoid: The white, Jewish, and middle eastern people.
Mongoloid: Asian and peoples of the Americas.
Negroid: the ancient Egyptians, Ethiopians, Sub-Saharan Africans.
Sure enough scripture supports this scientific fact
Genesis 9:18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham [is] the father of Canaan.
Genesis 9:19 These [are] the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
At the tower of Babel god separated everyone and confused their languages. He also instilled within everyone nationalism. From Babel God scattered all the tribes in their own direction.
Hamitic tribes went into modern day Africa.
The Descendants of Ham: The Descendants of Ham: The Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites. Gen. 10:6-20.
Cush: Ethiopians the Septuagint uniformly translates Cush as Αἰθιοπία “Ethiopia.”
Mizraim: The Hebrew name for the land of Egypt refers to areas of upper and lower Nile River of Egypt thus a reference to Egyptians.
Phut: Generally associated with the Egyptians and more specifically Libya.
Canaan: The area settled by Canaan and his sons was west of the River Jordan.
Sidon (Zidon): Hebrew name stood for the whole Phoenician coast.
Further evidence that Hamites are black:
Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e Zipporah described her homeland from Africa: “Stranger, this land is called Libya {an ancient name for the African continent}. It is inhabited by tribes of various peoples, Ethiopians, dark men. One man is the ruler of the land: he is both king and general. He rules the state, judges the people, and is priest. This man is my father {Jethro} and theirs.” Book of Numbers 12:1. Exagoge 60-65 by Ezekiel the Tragedian (fragments reproduced in Eusebius)
The rhetorical question “Can the Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e change his skin?” in Jeremiah 13:23 implies people of a markedly different skin color from the Israelites, probably an African people; also, the Septuagint uniformly translates Cush as Αἰθιοπία “Ethiopia.”
Are Canaanites Africans who migrated south of the Sahara? Noah cursed only Canaan of Ham’s sons. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. The Arabs (Shemitic Edomites) enslaved blacks for 1000 years before whites ever started enslaving them. Talmudic Jews brought Hamitic Canaanites over on the slave ships and unfortunately through Kabbalistic Freemason Satanists who founded America this curse was used to justify slavery, of note only 1-3% of whites ever enslaved blacks. The reason for this conspiracy of Satan was to instill within white Israelites such a guilt complex that they would blame Christianity for the horrible practice of slavery and inevitably accept the ‘Afro-centrist’ Israelite theory as one of Satan’s end time’s deceptions.
Genesis 9:26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
Genesis 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
The Descendants Shem: The people from the Middle East and Southern Asia. (Gen. 10:21-32.)
Eber: Abraham was the sixth generation of Eber who settled in Mesopotamia in the area of Ur of the Chaldees (Gen. 11).
Elam: Geographically the region beyond the Tigris River, east of Babylonia. The Elamites became a strong nation and were recognized as sovereign by the Babylonian states.
Asshur: The Assyrians of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.
Lud: The Lydians from Asia Minor.
Aram: Aramaeans of Mesopotamia and Syria
The Descendants of Japheth: The descendents of Japheth are harder to identify by tribe, however they are Mongoloid people who initially went north and inhabited Europe before being later displaced by the Israelites after being freed from their Assyrian captivity. The Japhethites later migrated east into China, Japan and the Americas. The reason why many people mistake the Japhethites as being white Caucasians is because the lost children of Israel also migrated north and displaced the Japhetites and kept many of the names of the places they inhabited.
Are white people Japhethites or Israelites?
Israelites descended from Abraham who was a Shemite of the nation of Eber. We know who the rest of Shem’s descendents are today, most of them still inhabiting the middle east. It would be impossible for white people to have descended from Japheth as white people, Jews, Arabs, Syrians etc are all of the same racial group caucasoid judging by their skull shape and hair texture. All are descendents of Shem.
Jacob was the first Israelite. God changed Jacob’s name to Israel. All of his descendents are Israelites. Judah is only one tribe of Israel. The rest of the tribes are ‘lost.’
Jacob was a ‘smooth’ man while his brother Esau was a red man and hairy.
And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau. (Genesis 25:25)
And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man. (Genesis 27:11)
While natives of the Americas are red they are certainly not hairy. The only group that fits this description are the Arab peoples. Which makes sense because Arab’s are also Shemitic Caucasoids as white people are.
Israelites had colorful hair and ‘beautiful’ eyes.
(1 Samuel 16:12) So he sent and made him come in. Now he had red hair and beautiful eyes and pleasing looks. (Bible in Basic English)
So Israelites have colorful hair and assumingly colorful eyes as well. All blue eyed people share the same common ancestor. Obviously Jews have blue eyes and multicolored hair as do white Caucasians. So once again the whites are Japhethites theory is in trouble. Obviously as quoted earlier Israelite skin color is white seeing that it was radically different from the people of Ethiopia.
Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e Zipporah described her homeland from Africa: “Stranger, this land is called Libya {an ancient name for the African continent}. It is inhabited by tribes of various peoples, Ethiopians, dark men. One man is the ruler of the land: he is both king and general. He rules the state, judges the people, and is priest. This man is my father {Jethro} and theirs.” Book of Numbers 12:1. Exagoge 60-65 by Ezekiel the Tragedian (fragments reproduced in Eusebius)
The rhetorical question “Can the Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e change his skin?” in Jeremiah 13:23 implies people of a markedly different skin color from the Israelites, probably an African people; also, the Septuagint uniformly translates Cush as Αἰθιοπία “Ethiopia.”
 
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That is a gross opinion, but your opinion nonetheless.

By the way, objectively define a "good" theological basis. Good according to whose standard?

Good according to the historic teaching of the Christian faith with a firm root tied into good biblical hermeneutics and exegesis; as opposed to Joe Somebody's private opinion whose theology might make a good novel, but not good biblical commentary.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.

Yes I sure don't see any whites race mixing. A lot of places in the UK whites can no longer enter... yet any ethnic minority can go wherever they want in a white part of town without being threatened. I suggest you google Department of Justice crime survey. Now lets be honest the Yoke that god curses Israel with is much more representative of whites than blacks. Blacks are more empowered than ever America is ran by a BLACK guy.... God said he would bless those who bless Israel. Just as he has blessed Japan. And curse those who curse Israel. Ever since Obama has come into office black income has decreased dramatically

The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:

Social welfare programs? Massive amounts of money spent on Africa etc.

The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,

Applies to whites just as much as blacks

And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God.

And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.

And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

Ok quick history lesson. At the strt of the twentiesth century whites were 33% o the world population while subsahara Africa which didn't have agriculture or civilization had an extremely small population. White birthrates now are 1.3-1.6 or so. Whites have stopped making babies meanwhile Africa's population has exploded....

It should be a no brainer that blacks are not Israelites because God blessed Jacob to be fruitful and multiply thousands of years ago. Did it take thousands of years for that blessing to come to fruition...
 
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I didnt read the site, was just looking at the two kings and Zion

Deut 4:47“And they possessed his [Sihon’s] land, and the land of Og king of Bashan, two kings of the Amorites, which were on this side Jordan toward the sun rising; From Aroer, which is by the bank of the river Arnon, even unto Mount Sion, which is Hermon

Jos 2:10 For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed.

Jos 24:12 And I sent the hornet before you, which drave them out from before you, even the two kings of the Amorites; but not with thy sword, nor with thy bow.
Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Psalm 133:3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the LORD commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

Psalm 125:1 They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.


Isaiah 2:3... for out of Zion shall go forth the law


Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.



Psalm 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.


Wonder if it could be seen this way, or rather, where it says, out of Zion (where the foundation stone is laid) which speaks to Christ in us shall go forth a law. They that trust the Lord are as Mount Zion, thus "we establish the law, but the law of faith. Likewise The faith (which works by love) or as God (which shines) through her. The love of God in Christ (wherein) we are perfected.




 
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You're gonna have to make the choice are blacks the lost tribes or are whites.
What about those of us who are of the yellow persuasion? Billion and a half of us in China alone. Are we all just supernumeraries? Seriously though, I don't care two pins about who the "lost tribes", even if I thought someone could identify them, which I don't. We're all sinners in need of salvation, and our Lord Jesus Christ is that salvation. There is, if you'll recall, no respect of persons with God. We all stand before Him, as the old hymn goes, "without one plea, save that [His] blood was shed for me". That applies to Jews and Gentiles, blacks, whites, yellows, browns, reds, and whatever other colors fallen humans come in.
 
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Doy you know that for sure? How much time have you spent researching it? Are you willing to risk your salvation? Its interesting because Jesus said preach only unto the lost children of Israel. None of the apostles went to Africa!
http://cgca.net/coglinks/wcglit/hh_apostles.txt



White Caucasians are the Lost Tribes of Israel « whitesareisrael

God loves all his children but he chose Israelites as his chosen people. Jacob’s, whos name was changed to Israel, represented what God thought was best in man kind.
There are 3 main racial groupings according to scientists based on skull shape and hair texture evidence.
Caucasoid: The white, Jewish, and middle eastern people.
Mongoloid: Asian and peoples of the Americas.
Negroid: the ancient Egyptians, Ethiopians, Sub-Saharan Africans.
Sure enough scripture supports this scientific fact
Genesis 9:18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham [is] the father of Canaan.
Genesis 9:19 These [are] the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
At the tower of Babel god separated everyone and confused their languages. He also instilled within everyone nationalism. From Babel God scattered all the tribes in their own direction.
Hamitic tribes went into modern day Africa.
The Descendants of Ham: The Descendants of Ham: The Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites. Gen. 10:6-20.
Cush: Ethiopians the Septuagint uniformly translates Cush as Αἰθιοπία “Ethiopia.”
Mizraim: The Hebrew name for the land of Egypt refers to areas of upper and lower Nile River of Egypt thus a reference to Egyptians.
Phut: Generally associated with the Egyptians and more specifically Libya.
Canaan: The area settled by Canaan and his sons was west of the River Jordan.
Sidon (Zidon): Hebrew name stood for the whole Phoenician coast.
Further evidence that Hamites are black:
Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e Zipporah described her homeland from Africa: “Stranger, this land is called Libya {an ancient name for the African continent}. It is inhabited by tribes of various peoples, Ethiopians, dark men. One man is the ruler of the land: he is both king and general. He rules the state, judges the people, and is priest. This man is my father {Jethro} and theirs.” Book of Numbers 12:1. Exagoge 60-65 by Ezekiel the Tragedian (fragments reproduced in Eusebius)
The rhetorical question “Can the Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e change his skin?” in Jeremiah 13:23 implies people of a markedly different skin color from the Israelites, probably an African people; also, the Septuagint uniformly translates Cush as Αἰθιοπία “Ethiopia.”
Are Canaanites Africans who migrated south of the Sahara? Noah cursed only Canaan of Ham’s sons. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. The Arabs (Shemitic Edomites) enslaved blacks for 1000 years before whites ever started enslaving them. Talmudic Jews brought Hamitic Canaanites over on the slave ships and unfortunately through Kabbalistic Freemason Satanists who founded America this curse was used to justify slavery, of note only 1-3% of whites ever enslaved blacks. The reason for this conspiracy of Satan was to instill within white Israelites such a guilt complex that they would blame Christianity for the horrible practice of slavery and inevitably accept the ‘Afro-centrist’ Israelite theory as one of Satan’s end time’s deceptions.
Genesis 9:26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
Genesis 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
The Descendants Shem: The people from the Middle East and Southern Asia. (Gen. 10:21-32.)
Eber: Abraham was the sixth generation of Eber who settled in Mesopotamia in the area of Ur of the Chaldees (Gen. 11).
Elam: Geographically the region beyond the Tigris River, east of Babylonia. The Elamites became a strong nation and were recognized as sovereign by the Babylonian states.
Asshur: The Assyrians of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.
Lud: The Lydians from Asia Minor.
Aram: Aramaeans of Mesopotamia and Syria
The Descendants of Japheth: The descendents of Japheth are harder to identify by tribe, however they are Mongoloid people who initially went north and inhabited Europe before being later displaced by the Israelites after being freed from their Assyrian captivity. The Japhethites later migrated east into China, Japan and the Americas. The reason why many people mistake the Japhethites as being white Caucasians is because the lost children of Israel also migrated north and displaced the Japhetites and kept many of the names of the places they inhabited.
Are white people Japhethites or Israelites?
Israelites descended from Abraham who was a Shemite of the nation of Eber. We know who the rest of Shem’s descendents are today, most of them still inhabiting the middle east. It would be impossible for white people to have descended from Japheth as white people, Jews, Arabs, Syrians etc are all of the same racial group caucasoid judging by their skull shape and hair texture. All are descendents of Shem.
Jacob was the first Israelite. God changed Jacob’s name to Israel. All of his descendents are Israelites. Judah is only one tribe of Israel. The rest of the tribes are ‘lost.’
Jacob was a ‘smooth’ man while his brother Esau was a red man and hairy.
And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau. (Genesis 25:25)
And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man. (Genesis 27:11)
While natives of the Americas are red they are certainly not hairy. The only group that fits this description are the Arab peoples. Which makes sense because Arab’s are also Shemitic Caucasoids as white people are.
Israelites had colorful hair and ‘beautiful’ eyes.
(1 Samuel 16:12) So he sent and made him come in. Now he had red hair and beautiful eyes and pleasing looks. (Bible in Basic English)
So Israelites have colorful hair and assumingly colorful eyes as well. All blue eyed people share the same common ancestor. Obviously Jews have blue eyes and multicolored hair as do white Caucasians. So once again the whites are Japhethites theory is in trouble. Obviously as quoted earlier Israelite skin color is white seeing that it was radically different from the people of Ethiopia.
Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e Zipporah described her homeland from Africa: “Stranger, this land is called Libya {an ancient name for the African continent}. It is inhabited by tribes of various peoples, Ethiopians, dark men. One man is the ruler of the land: he is both king and general. He rules the state, judges the people, and is priest. This man is my father {Jethro} and theirs.” Book of Numbers 12:1. Exagoge 60-65 by Ezekiel the Tragedian (fragments reproduced in Eusebius)
The rhetorical question “Can the Cu[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]e change his skin?” in Jeremiah 13:23 implies people of a markedly different skin color from the Israelites, probably an African people; also, the Septuagint uniformly translates Cush as Αἰθιοπία “Ethiopia.”


I have spent a lot of time historically researching this, and biblically researching. I don't bet my salvation on anything, but at the same time I know that there is a deep-rooted lie that is making whites out to be the only members of Israel - this is 100% untrue. 100%.

Remember also that no one began in Africa the continent. Adam and Eve were from ISRAEL, not Africa. Africa has become synonymous with "black," but Australia, Melanasia, Persia, New Egypt, New Israel, etc. all have "black" people living there, and in the case of Australia, Israel, Persia, and Melanesia they are natives.


Having said that, ROME was a WORLDLY EMPIRE, much like the U.S. There were blacks, asians, whites, etc. in Rome. They were roman citizens. Some were religious figures. Just because Christ was in Israel, and took His disciples from Israel, doesn't mean the Disciples were not black.

All I am going to say is be careful to believe that white people are superior, even in royal lineage (the only Hebrews.) It has been done so many times. You should look up the Khazar Jews, and Edomites. These are the posers that claim to be Hebrews, but Christ has already called them out as the synagogue of satan.
 
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Good according to the historic teaching of the Christian faith with a firm root tied into good biblical hermeneutics and exegesis; as opposed to Joe Somebody's private opinion whose theology might make a good novel, but not good biblical commentary.

-CryptoLutheran


Yes, with hindsight, perhaps I spoke too soon, and too naively.
 
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Should you not have discussed where the idea of the Antichrist's origins come from? What is the basis for this theory? Is it even scriptural? By the way, they dubbed them "The Ten Lost Tribes" for a reason. It is impossible for the Antichrist to even come from this tribe, unless God sees it fit to reinvent a new Tribe of Dan.
 
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Yes it is a choice you will have to make... The Mark of the Beast is a Freewill choice that everyone has to make. There is no pretribulation rapture that will whisk you away so you wont have to make a decision.

I'm not a Dispensationalist, so I don't believe in a pre-tribulation rapture. As far as the mark of the beast is concerned, that would likely take another discussion altogether.

God is going to test you to see if you really know him...

My trust is in God's Gospel promises, which are unfailing.

My hope is built on nothing less
than Jesus' blood and righteousness.
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
but wholly lean on Jesus' name.


Have you ever read the bible?

Regularly.

God is a racialist!

False.

He believes each race should keep to their respective territory.

Define "race".

He instilled each race with nationalism and different languages so they would not mix.

Well then, looks like I'm screwed. I'm the product of Irish, German, Danish and other assorted European ethnic backgrounds. And what's worse? Irish, German and Danish are all mixed ethnicities too. My Irish ancestry includes several waves of immigration to the Eire including the Celts who mostly supplanted the earlier people groups; and then of course my German ancestry is a combination of various Germanic groups over the course of many thousands and thousands of years.

There is no such thing as a pure race. We're all mutts. Every last one of us. If God wanted us to be inbred, He wouldn't have designed biology to benefit from genetic diversity.

He doesn't want people to race mix 'knowing strange flesh.' Israelites are his chosen people. Obviously he is racialist by definition because he prefers one group to another.

Apparently you've never read the New Testament. If you had you'd know that God's love is for all people universally and that the Gospel is for Jew, Gentile, Scythian, Barbarian and for all alike. Israel was chosen, not by virtue of some imagined ethnic purity (Moses married an Ethiopian, Ruth was a Moabite, and etc etc) but in order to be His Covenant People. Israel's Israelness had nothing to do with race or DNA, but with God's Covenant which He made with them on Mt. Sinai; and anyone--regardless of their ancestry, who became a part of that Covenant (such as Ruth, an ancestor, by the way, of our own Lord Jesus Christ) became part of Israel.

It doesn't mean that he hates everyone else, after all Jesus opened the door to salvation to all gentiles as well, it just means that Jacob (who's name was changed to Israel) represented what he thought was best about mankind...

It's now clear that you're not that familiar with the Old Testament, otherwise you'd know that Israel was never the best of mankind, as is clear from their consistent shortcomings due to being regular fallible human beings. God's Covenant promises with Israel had nothing to do with Israel having some innate specialness--let alone some racial specialness--but had everything to do with God being God and therefore being a God of faithfulness to His Covenant Promises.

Will you be foolish or wise?

Wisdom sounds neat, I think I'll go with that. Which is why I think I'll stick with Scripture and the historic teaching of the Christian faith instead of what you're saying.

Then the Kingdom of Heaven will be like ten virgins, who took their lamps, and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. Those who were foolish, when they took their lamps, took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. Now while the bridegroom delayed, they all slumbered and slept. But at midnight there was a cry, "Behold! The bridegroom is coming! Come out to meet him!" Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. The foolish said to the wise, "Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out." But the wise answered, saying, "What if there isn't enough for us and you? You go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves." While they went away to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. Afterward the other virgins also came, saying, "Lord, Lord, open to us." But he answered, "Most certainly I tell you, I don't know you." Watch therefore, for you don't know the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

The parable does not criticise the virgins for sleeping, since both groups do that, but for being unprepared. It is not clear exactly what form this lack of preparation takes: the foolish virgins may have taken insufficient oil or, if they light their lamps or torches for the first time when the bridegroom arrives (having slept through the previous hours of darkness), they may have brought no oil at all[ (it is also unclear as to whether the foolish virgins succeed in purchasing any oil that night: most shops would not have been open).
The parable is not written in praise of virginity, and indeed Louis of Granada, in his The Sinner's Guide of 1555, writes "No one makes intercession with the Bridegroom for the five foolish virgins who, after despising the pleasures of the flesh and stifling in their hearts the fire of concupiscence, nay, after observing the great counsel of virginity, neglected the precept of humility and became inflated with pride on account of their virginity."
Spencer W. Kimball discussed the difference between the wise and the foolish virgins and why they could not share the oil: "This was not selfishness or unkindness. The kind of oil that is needed to illuminate the way and light up the darkness is not shareable. How can one share obedience to the principle of tithing; a mind at peace from righteous living; an accumulation of knowledge? How can one share faith or testimony? How can one share attitudes or chastity.... Each must obtain that kind of oil for himself.... In the parable, oil can be purchased at the market. In our lives the oil of preparedness is accumulated drop by drop in righteous living. Fasting, family prayer... control of bodily appetites, preaching the gospel, studying the scriptures-each act of dedication and obedience is a drop added to our store. Deeds of kindness, payment of offerings and tithes, chaste thoughts and actions, marriage in the covenant for eternity-these, too, contribute importantly to the oil with which we can at midnight refuel our exhausted lamps."[10][11]

That's neat. I'm still going to stick to Scripture and Christianity.

The reason why you need to know who Israel is (Jewish and White people) as long as you also realize Israel is mystery babylon you will not be deceived end times. All gentiles need to know this information as well. Any other native americans or mixed like myself or blacks etc. It's vital that they understand this because Satan is going to play off of every races collective issues, black's ego, white guilt which he has conditioned into whites for the past 50 years since the Hippy Revolution where everything became opposite. Any social 'progression' since then was brought about by Satan. Feminism, multiculturalism, homosexuality, drug culture etc.

Yeah, what's a little slavery between neighbors anyway?

Satan's end times deceptions depend on knowing who exactly Israelites are.

1) Thomas Plantard is the direct descendent of Jesus. (Thomas Plantard is the Antichrist)
2) The Vatican or America is Mystery Babylon. (Israel is Mystery Babylon, The Vatican and America are counterfeits)
3) Jews are Kenites (descending from Cain / Khazar’s. Modern Jews are in fact Jews descending from the tribe of Judah)
4) In 2012 ‘aliens’ will pose as our helpers and Saviors and back up Thomas Plantard (The Antichrist’s) claim to the throne. (These aliens are not aliens at all but are the 6 fingered evil ‘giants’ the bible talks about as being offspring of fallen angels (Nephilim) and humans.
5) Blacks are the lost tribes of Israel (Whites are the lost tribes)
6) The Mark of the Beast is the microchip (The microchip is Satan’s counterfeit mark, the real mark is the Hexagram)
7) Pretribulation rapture (Satan promotes this because when no one is whisked away many Christians will lose faith)
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The Antichrist will destroy the New World Order (Freemasons, Rothschilds and Rockefellers will allow themselves to be sacrificed)

I suggest you watch a brilliant black Reverend James Manning he's black and acknowledges that God is racialist...
ATLAHWorldwide's Channel - YouTube

Oh, right, now if you don't mind I'm going to leave the Psych Ward. Enjoy the tinfoil hat.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Lost meaning the identity of those is for the most part unknown until the end of times. The 3 chapters of the bible that speaks of them all don't end with Amen. Whereas every other chapter does. God wants and needs us to figure it out because it plays a role in the end times deceptions.
 
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