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Most of the North American saints were born abroad and arrived later. The most noteable are the russian missionaries to Alaska. St Peter the Aleut was indeed a native alaskan. He was an aleutian eskimo who was martyred in California during a russian expedition. He was a native of north america born in alaska but back when it was russian territory. When we say northamerican saints we usually mean those who served here and upon their passing were first venerated by members of the orthodox churches in america.

Alaska was a bishopric of the Moscow based Russian church. In 1900 St Tikhon who was head of the 'diocese of the Aleutian Islands and Alaska" changed it to diocese of the aleutian islands and north america. So it depends on what one means when they says american saint or canadien saint or north american saint.

There are 'american' born saints who were born here but actually made a name for themselves abroad and thus remain unknown in the land of their birth. St. Varnava was born in the United States but his parents moved back to Yugoslavia when he was a child. He became a bishop and after his death was glorified a saint of the Serbian church.
 
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Thanks. If I recall correctly, St Brendan in the New World is considered doubtful by scholars - does the OC teach that he came here for sure?

I can't comment on what the Church's opinion is, but I thought you might be interested in reading this:
Amazon.com: The Brendan Voyage (Modern Library Exploration) (9780375755248): Tim Severin, Malachy McCourt: Books

This guy ^ used St Brendan's Vita to map his route to the American continent from the same starting point, to the same destination, in the same primitive leather-and-timber coracle... and he made it. Interesting stuff!
 
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I can't comment on what the Church's opinion is, but I thought you might be interested in reading this:
Amazon.com: The Brendan Voyage (Modern Library Exploration) (9780375755248): Tim Severin, Malachy McCourt: Books

This guy ^ used St Brendan's Vita to map his route to the American continent from the same starting point, to the same destination, in the same primitive leather-and-timber coracle... and he made it. Interesting stuff!

Imagine that: St. Brendan could have made it to North America without all of the high tech gear that later sailors used. Who would have thought?
 
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I can't comment on what the Church's opinion is, but I thought you might be interested in reading this:
Amazon.com: The Brendan Voyage (Modern Library Exploration) (9780375755248): Tim Severin, Malachy McCourt: Books

This guy ^ used St Brendan's Vita to map his route to the American continent from the same starting point, to the same destination, in the same primitive leather-and-timber coracle... and he made it. Interesting stuff!

Yeah, I heard about that fellow. I think he was nuts - the North Atlantic in a coracle! I would be seasick before I was out of the harbour.

But I'm not surprised at all it could be done Michael, look at the feats of navigation by the Polynesians, who didn't even have the benefit of the North Star. But I think I would prefer a canoe on the Pacific to a coracle on the Atlantic myself.
 
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Imagine that: St. Brendan could have made it to North America without all of the high tech gear that later sailors used. Who would have thought?

Well the Vikings did! If you take the North-Atlantic rout, you are never more than a few hundred miles from land. It could (has) be done, but not by me!;)

I personally believe that St. Brendan's record is proof enough. The real question is "why" he did it.:confused:
 
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Yeah, I heard about that fellow. I think he was nuts - the North Atlantic in a coracle! I would be seasick before I was out of the harbour.

But I'm not surprised at all it could be done Michael, look at the feats of navigation by the Polynesians, who didn't even have the benefit of the North Star. But I think I would prefer a canoe on the Pacific to a coracle on the Atlantic myself.

Amazing things have been done in the name of evangelism.
 
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There is also the belief, and I'm on board with it, that Columbus came here based on information he received about/by Native Americans that were trading in Ireland. There is evidence that they N/A's crossed semi regularly. Columbus brought back Natives that explained through visuals the lay of the islands directly to the King, rather than Columbus explaining to the King.

St Olga, also an Alaskan Aleutian. Yes, "American", but up there next to Canada (always found it odd how we have land up there that almost seems like it should be part of Canada. Glad we have it though ;) )
 
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There is also the belief, and I'm on board with it, that Columbus came here based on information he received about/by Native Americans that were trading in Ireland. There is evidence that they N/A's crossed semi regularly. Columbus brought back Natives that explained through visuals the lay of the islands directly to the King, rather than Columbus explaining to the King.

St Olga, also an Alaskan Aleutian. Yes, "American", but up there next to Canada (always found it odd how we have land up there that almost seems like it should be part of Canada. Glad we have it though ;) )

For the time being only the Alaskan Church recognizes St. Olga as a saint. However, the OCA is working on glorifying her.
 
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For the time being only the Alaskan Church recognizes St. Olga as a saint. However, the OCA is working on glorifying her.
Isn't the Alaskan Church under the Russian Patriarch? I heard about her through people in the Greek Church.
 
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Isn't the Alaskan Church under the Russian Patriarch? I heard about her through people in the Greek Church.

The Alaskan Church is under the OCA. When Saint Olga is glorified it will be the OCA who glorifies her. Yes at the time she lived the Alaskan Church was under the MP, but that changed in 1970 with the Tomos of Autocephally that was granted to the Russian Metropolia in North America.
 
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Amazing things have been done in the name of evangelism.
That is certianly true. Though it doesn't explain the guy who reconstructed the voyage.

But I am thinking I may get that nook for my FIL for Christmas, so this has been a useful thread, as he is rather difficult to buy for.
 
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