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I find it hard to believe that so many Christians preach that women should dress modestly, but they don't see anything wrong with male gynecologists. Male gynecologists are definitely not morally above other men.
This is one of the most difficult issues most Christians have never thought about because we are taught that we should not question the medical industry and that it's okay for them to do anything. That is insane. God has the same expectations of everyone. Medical professionals are not above us morally.
Let me share my story. I am almost 30 years old and still a virgin. I think I saw that something was wrong with male gynecologists around 1987 or1988 (21-22 years ago) when I was just 8 years old. I found out what a male gynecologist was when I was 8 years old and Im still very shocked that they exist. Yes, my mom had a male gynecologist. Both my sister and I were delivered by a male ob/gyn. My mom actually had a c section with both of us. I questioned her a lot when I was a kid. At that time, she just pretty much ignored me. I didnt understand because I was told as a kid that my father could not see me any more after a certain age. I didnt get it how it was different for a strange male doctor. I think that my moms answer was something like Its different because hes a doctor. I didnt buy my moms explanation because I knew that both the doctor and my father are men. They are no different. But over the past several years, she has changed her mind. She has decided she will no longer go to a male gynecologist because of some things Ive brought attention to her so thats good news. I see my mom as an innocent victim of the medical industry. Ive convinced 25 year old sister to not go to a male gynecologist ever.
When I made the commitment to True Love Waits as a teenager, I also thought about how I was never going to let another man (including doctor) other than my future husband to have access to certain parts of my body. It will probably be a pleasant surprise to my future husband since he might have never really thought about it. The truth is he was probably delivered by a male gynecologist just like I was since he would probably have been born sometime in the 1970s. I would let him know that I love him too much to let another man other than him have access to certain parts of my body. I am so thankful that God enlightened me on this subject because I get to give my future husband another special gift in addition to my virginity. Its a priceless gift. I would not even go to a male gynecologist for $1 Million.
I am not against doctors at all, but I believe that God has the same expectations of them as us. I dont care about the gender of the doctor when I go in for an ear infection or strep throat. I am speaking about private things. I believe that God only intended for women to be gynecologists. The good news is that 80% of ob/gyn residency students are female now.
I know that people often dont question the medical industry. The truth is medical professionals are not above us morally. God has done a lot of wonderful things through doctors, but I dont get it how it could be okay for men to do intimate exams on women who are not their wives. There were no intimate exams on women in the bible. I also know that babies were delivered by midwives in the bible. There is nowhere in the Bible that supports male doctors examining and looking at private parts of women who are not their wives. I have always felt like only women belonged to the ob/gyn field. I do know that in 1970 only 5% of the gynecologists were women. But we should not go by our culture because a lot of things in our culture have been wrong. There is not one word that mentions abortion in the bible, but there are several verses that support why abortion is wrong. For instance, abortion is murder. Look at this verse for example about how God feels about the unborn: For YOU created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mothers womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful I know that full well. Psalm 139: 13-14. Look at Proverbs 6:17. Abortion didnt exist in the biblical time. The bible preaches against nudity before the opposite sex except for between a husband and a wife. I dont see anything wrong with seeing naked kids of the opposite sex in a certain age range. Its not a big deal to see a 2 year old boy or girl running naked because he/she has not sexually matured yet.
I decided to reread the book, Not Even a Hint by Joshua Harris. Im not sure if youve ever read that book. I was disappointed that he didn't talk any about male gynecologists in his book. Joshua is a wonderful Christian pastor. He admits that he struggles with lust sometimes. He made a decision that he could no longer go to a certain beach in Florida because many women there were dressed immodestly and he struggled with thoughts. He also made a decision that he could not look at any catalogs that had lingerie in them and that his wife had to look through them. I know for sure that Joshua didnt think to himself, I am going to that beach to enjoy women. I believe that many Christian men never intend to look at inappropriate contentography at all to lust, but they choose to install inappropriate contento filters to prevent themselves from accidentally seeing inappropriate contentography. Every man is going to struggle with lustful thoughts no matter how strong Christian he is. A male gynecologist is a man and you cannot take man out of him. I find it very strange that many people think that male gynecologists dont ever have lustful thoughts. Look at this example about Joshua. He never saw those women completely naked or examined their private parts and he had some thoughts. How in the world is it possible for a male gynecologist to never have any thoughts when he is between a womans legs and looking at her private parts? I know what goes on in a pelvic examination. I think it is strange that people think that male gynecologists are less likely than other men to have lustful thoughts especially when they actually get to see the woman naked and touch her private parts. I heard that male doctors in medical schools are taught to keep those thoughts to themselves. Most doctors dont act on thoughts by going all way, but the Bible is very clear that there should not even be a hint of lust/impurity (Ephesians 5:3). There may be times when a male gynecologist examines a woman who is not attractive or smells terrible, but how is it okay for him to examine her private parts because she is not married to him? Ive heard this crazy statement: Male gynecologists go to medical schools and they are trained to not have those sexual thoughts. If that was the case, why cannot teachers, pastors, electricians, computer programmers, accountants, firemen, and other men go through schools to train themselves to not have lustful thoughts? They are all men. Dr. Dobson from Focus on Family said that men are visually aroused by naked womens bodies. Ive heard this argument: Male gynecologists have seen so many private parts that they dont lust anymore. If that was true, why do men who look at inappropriate contentography continue to look at them? They see so many private parts of women. If this was true that they got tired, the men who look at inappropriate contentography a lot would get tired and stop lusting. I heard that professors in medical schools understand that male doctors are going to lust so they encourage them to just keep those lustful thoughts to themselves. I am sure that so many women have gone to a male gynecologist not realizing how he might be enjoying doing the intimate exams on them and whats really in his mind.
The issue of male gynecologist is a very touchy and difficult issue. I have learned so much this year and last year from a group called How Husbands Feel About GYN Exams. There are some men in this group whose marriages were hurt because their wives went to a male gynecologist. Some of the men in this group are not even Christians and they see that male gynecologists are not right.
I am not against doctors and medical care at all. But I believe that men have no business being gynecologists. For example, I would not mind a male doctor tending to my knee as long as I was fully clothed. You know what I mean. I was very glad to hear that one male medical student in the How Husbands Feel About Gyn Exams talking about how his uncle, a family practice doctor refused to do any pelvic exams on females and that he let a female doctor in his practice handle all of the pelvic exams. Im very proud of this male family practice doctor. We need more doctors who will stand up for what is right. If I was a female family practice doctor, I would refuse to do intimate examinations on male patients simply because Im not married to them. I would be glad to treat them for other things that are not personal such as knee problem, diabetes, etc. I really dont understand how mothers encourage their daughters to go to a male gynecologist, but they are upset if another man digitally penetrates their daughter with his fingers. I know that female patients submit to this, but it was because they were brainwashed that doctors can do anything. I can see how sometimes male gynecologists might not lust when a woman gives birth because I saw a lot of blood in some of the childbirth videos. Ive heard that sometimes theres poop from the baby or the lady so thats gross. Ive heard this argument from medical professionals: there are some gross things. I can agree with that, but it is still not okay for a male doctor to see the private parts of a woman who he is not married to. I feel like only female medical professionals and the husband of the woman should be there for the childbirth.
Some people say that male gynecologists are not sexual. My big question is how do they have family? If male gynecologists were not sexual, they would never have sex with their wives period.
I read a story of a teenage boy who was 14 years old. He shared a room with his 14 year old twin sister. He was embarrassed, but he said that it was very hard for him to stay pure in thoughts when he saw his sister changing clothes because she was attractive. I am pretty sure that every male gynecologist has had thoughts when they examine women no matter how much self control they may have. They just keep those thoughts to themselves most of the time.
Even if I could be guaranteed that a male gynecologist doesnt have sexual thoughts, I still believe it is wrong. If it was not wrong, then I guess it must be okay for fathers to see their teenage or adult daughters naked.
In my biology class in high school, some boys giggled when the teacher showed a childbirth video and the ladys private parts were exposed. What does that tell you?
My heart really goes to the male gynecologists wife. Its sad that he sees so many women naked and touches their private parts. Rubber gloves make no difference. They are just to protect the male gynecologist from getting germs on his hands. The male gynecologists wife is not special at all. I am sure that he sees some women that probably have prettier bodies than his wife. I believe that God only intended one woman for each grown adult man to see naked and thats their wife. The wife should be the only woman the husband should see naked based on common sense and Leviticus 18.
I feel like most women who have gone to male gynecologists are innocent victims of the medical industry. About 95% of women above the age of 45 have been to a male gynecologist at least one time in their life time. I know they set up appointments with a male doctor, but I believe it is because they fell to the cultural blind spot from the previous generation.
One lady that posted about patient modesty said the below paragraph and I agree with it.
The bond between a husband and wife is very special because each has pledged themselves to the other. This bond is strengthened and encouraged by the modesty of the couple. Saving some things to be admired solely by ones spouse gives a sense of privilege, honor and intimacy. Anytime a person exposes their body to a member of the opposite sex they take away a part of the marriage intimacy and chance weakening the bonds between a husband and wife. This intimacy is further weakened by the encouragement of the medical establishment for women to expect to be examined intimately and for a woman to reveal intimate thoughts to her doctor, regardless of the reason for the visit to the doctor.
I hope more women in my generations will never go to male gynecologists in their whole lives just like me. I am encouraged to read on the Internet that 80% of ob/gyn residency students are female now. Men who want to be doctors should choose another specialty that would not require them to examine teenage or adult women patients intimately. It is certainly possible for a family practice doctor to make the decision he will not do anything gynecological and refer all women to a woman doctor for those things. If I were a family practice doctor, I would make it clearly to all of my male patients that I will not do any intimate male examinations on them and I will refer them to male doctors for those things.
I know of one guy in nursing school who was very upset when he was told that he had to do breast exams on some of female medical students. He ended up not having to do that. But unfortunately, he ended up giving in to doing some intimate things with women patients later on when he actually started working.
This is one of the most difficult issues most Christians have never thought about because we are taught that we should not question the medical industry and that it's okay for them to do anything. That is insane. God has the same expectations of everyone. Medical professionals are not above us morally.
Let me share my story. I am almost 30 years old and still a virgin. I think I saw that something was wrong with male gynecologists around 1987 or1988 (21-22 years ago) when I was just 8 years old. I found out what a male gynecologist was when I was 8 years old and Im still very shocked that they exist. Yes, my mom had a male gynecologist. Both my sister and I were delivered by a male ob/gyn. My mom actually had a c section with both of us. I questioned her a lot when I was a kid. At that time, she just pretty much ignored me. I didnt understand because I was told as a kid that my father could not see me any more after a certain age. I didnt get it how it was different for a strange male doctor. I think that my moms answer was something like Its different because hes a doctor. I didnt buy my moms explanation because I knew that both the doctor and my father are men. They are no different. But over the past several years, she has changed her mind. She has decided she will no longer go to a male gynecologist because of some things Ive brought attention to her so thats good news. I see my mom as an innocent victim of the medical industry. Ive convinced 25 year old sister to not go to a male gynecologist ever.
When I made the commitment to True Love Waits as a teenager, I also thought about how I was never going to let another man (including doctor) other than my future husband to have access to certain parts of my body. It will probably be a pleasant surprise to my future husband since he might have never really thought about it. The truth is he was probably delivered by a male gynecologist just like I was since he would probably have been born sometime in the 1970s. I would let him know that I love him too much to let another man other than him have access to certain parts of my body. I am so thankful that God enlightened me on this subject because I get to give my future husband another special gift in addition to my virginity. Its a priceless gift. I would not even go to a male gynecologist for $1 Million.
I am not against doctors at all, but I believe that God has the same expectations of them as us. I dont care about the gender of the doctor when I go in for an ear infection or strep throat. I am speaking about private things. I believe that God only intended for women to be gynecologists. The good news is that 80% of ob/gyn residency students are female now.
I know that people often dont question the medical industry. The truth is medical professionals are not above us morally. God has done a lot of wonderful things through doctors, but I dont get it how it could be okay for men to do intimate exams on women who are not their wives. There were no intimate exams on women in the bible. I also know that babies were delivered by midwives in the bible. There is nowhere in the Bible that supports male doctors examining and looking at private parts of women who are not their wives. I have always felt like only women belonged to the ob/gyn field. I do know that in 1970 only 5% of the gynecologists were women. But we should not go by our culture because a lot of things in our culture have been wrong. There is not one word that mentions abortion in the bible, but there are several verses that support why abortion is wrong. For instance, abortion is murder. Look at this verse for example about how God feels about the unborn: For YOU created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mothers womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful I know that full well. Psalm 139: 13-14. Look at Proverbs 6:17. Abortion didnt exist in the biblical time. The bible preaches against nudity before the opposite sex except for between a husband and a wife. I dont see anything wrong with seeing naked kids of the opposite sex in a certain age range. Its not a big deal to see a 2 year old boy or girl running naked because he/she has not sexually matured yet.
I decided to reread the book, Not Even a Hint by Joshua Harris. Im not sure if youve ever read that book. I was disappointed that he didn't talk any about male gynecologists in his book. Joshua is a wonderful Christian pastor. He admits that he struggles with lust sometimes. He made a decision that he could no longer go to a certain beach in Florida because many women there were dressed immodestly and he struggled with thoughts. He also made a decision that he could not look at any catalogs that had lingerie in them and that his wife had to look through them. I know for sure that Joshua didnt think to himself, I am going to that beach to enjoy women. I believe that many Christian men never intend to look at inappropriate contentography at all to lust, but they choose to install inappropriate contento filters to prevent themselves from accidentally seeing inappropriate contentography. Every man is going to struggle with lustful thoughts no matter how strong Christian he is. A male gynecologist is a man and you cannot take man out of him. I find it very strange that many people think that male gynecologists dont ever have lustful thoughts. Look at this example about Joshua. He never saw those women completely naked or examined their private parts and he had some thoughts. How in the world is it possible for a male gynecologist to never have any thoughts when he is between a womans legs and looking at her private parts? I know what goes on in a pelvic examination. I think it is strange that people think that male gynecologists are less likely than other men to have lustful thoughts especially when they actually get to see the woman naked and touch her private parts. I heard that male doctors in medical schools are taught to keep those thoughts to themselves. Most doctors dont act on thoughts by going all way, but the Bible is very clear that there should not even be a hint of lust/impurity (Ephesians 5:3). There may be times when a male gynecologist examines a woman who is not attractive or smells terrible, but how is it okay for him to examine her private parts because she is not married to him? Ive heard this crazy statement: Male gynecologists go to medical schools and they are trained to not have those sexual thoughts. If that was the case, why cannot teachers, pastors, electricians, computer programmers, accountants, firemen, and other men go through schools to train themselves to not have lustful thoughts? They are all men. Dr. Dobson from Focus on Family said that men are visually aroused by naked womens bodies. Ive heard this argument: Male gynecologists have seen so many private parts that they dont lust anymore. If that was true, why do men who look at inappropriate contentography continue to look at them? They see so many private parts of women. If this was true that they got tired, the men who look at inappropriate contentography a lot would get tired and stop lusting. I heard that professors in medical schools understand that male doctors are going to lust so they encourage them to just keep those lustful thoughts to themselves. I am sure that so many women have gone to a male gynecologist not realizing how he might be enjoying doing the intimate exams on them and whats really in his mind.
The issue of male gynecologist is a very touchy and difficult issue. I have learned so much this year and last year from a group called How Husbands Feel About GYN Exams. There are some men in this group whose marriages were hurt because their wives went to a male gynecologist. Some of the men in this group are not even Christians and they see that male gynecologists are not right.
I am not against doctors and medical care at all. But I believe that men have no business being gynecologists. For example, I would not mind a male doctor tending to my knee as long as I was fully clothed. You know what I mean. I was very glad to hear that one male medical student in the How Husbands Feel About Gyn Exams talking about how his uncle, a family practice doctor refused to do any pelvic exams on females and that he let a female doctor in his practice handle all of the pelvic exams. Im very proud of this male family practice doctor. We need more doctors who will stand up for what is right. If I was a female family practice doctor, I would refuse to do intimate examinations on male patients simply because Im not married to them. I would be glad to treat them for other things that are not personal such as knee problem, diabetes, etc. I really dont understand how mothers encourage their daughters to go to a male gynecologist, but they are upset if another man digitally penetrates their daughter with his fingers. I know that female patients submit to this, but it was because they were brainwashed that doctors can do anything. I can see how sometimes male gynecologists might not lust when a woman gives birth because I saw a lot of blood in some of the childbirth videos. Ive heard that sometimes theres poop from the baby or the lady so thats gross. Ive heard this argument from medical professionals: there are some gross things. I can agree with that, but it is still not okay for a male doctor to see the private parts of a woman who he is not married to. I feel like only female medical professionals and the husband of the woman should be there for the childbirth.
Some people say that male gynecologists are not sexual. My big question is how do they have family? If male gynecologists were not sexual, they would never have sex with their wives period.
I read a story of a teenage boy who was 14 years old. He shared a room with his 14 year old twin sister. He was embarrassed, but he said that it was very hard for him to stay pure in thoughts when he saw his sister changing clothes because she was attractive. I am pretty sure that every male gynecologist has had thoughts when they examine women no matter how much self control they may have. They just keep those thoughts to themselves most of the time.
Even if I could be guaranteed that a male gynecologist doesnt have sexual thoughts, I still believe it is wrong. If it was not wrong, then I guess it must be okay for fathers to see their teenage or adult daughters naked.
In my biology class in high school, some boys giggled when the teacher showed a childbirth video and the ladys private parts were exposed. What does that tell you?
My heart really goes to the male gynecologists wife. Its sad that he sees so many women naked and touches their private parts. Rubber gloves make no difference. They are just to protect the male gynecologist from getting germs on his hands. The male gynecologists wife is not special at all. I am sure that he sees some women that probably have prettier bodies than his wife. I believe that God only intended one woman for each grown adult man to see naked and thats their wife. The wife should be the only woman the husband should see naked based on common sense and Leviticus 18.
I feel like most women who have gone to male gynecologists are innocent victims of the medical industry. About 95% of women above the age of 45 have been to a male gynecologist at least one time in their life time. I know they set up appointments with a male doctor, but I believe it is because they fell to the cultural blind spot from the previous generation.
One lady that posted about patient modesty said the below paragraph and I agree with it.
The bond between a husband and wife is very special because each has pledged themselves to the other. This bond is strengthened and encouraged by the modesty of the couple. Saving some things to be admired solely by ones spouse gives a sense of privilege, honor and intimacy. Anytime a person exposes their body to a member of the opposite sex they take away a part of the marriage intimacy and chance weakening the bonds between a husband and wife. This intimacy is further weakened by the encouragement of the medical establishment for women to expect to be examined intimately and for a woman to reveal intimate thoughts to her doctor, regardless of the reason for the visit to the doctor.
I hope more women in my generations will never go to male gynecologists in their whole lives just like me. I am encouraged to read on the Internet that 80% of ob/gyn residency students are female now. Men who want to be doctors should choose another specialty that would not require them to examine teenage or adult women patients intimately. It is certainly possible for a family practice doctor to make the decision he will not do anything gynecological and refer all women to a woman doctor for those things. If I were a family practice doctor, I would make it clearly to all of my male patients that I will not do any intimate male examinations on them and I will refer them to male doctors for those things.
I know of one guy in nursing school who was very upset when he was told that he had to do breast exams on some of female medical students. He ended up not having to do that. But unfortunately, he ended up giving in to doing some intimate things with women patients later on when he actually started working.