"Gathering Storm" Ad in Iowa

[Mumei]

It gets better. They had a petition drive trying to get 2 million signatures. 2 Million For Marriage. They abbreviated it 2M4M. And they didn't check to see if the domain name was registered...

To be fair, two men trolling for a three way probably would be against marriage.

 

[IzzyPop]

To be fair, two men trolling for a three way probably would be against marriage.

Depends on the marriage...

 

[Mumei]

Depends on the marriage...

How could I have forgotten about those gay polygamous marriages?

 

[IzzyPop]

How could I have forgotten about those gay polygamous marriages?

Would that be polygamy or polyandry? We may have to make up some new words soon.

 

[Mumei]

Would that be polygamy or polyandry? We may have to make up some new words soon.

You are quite correct - polyamory would have been the correct label.

 

[cgcsb]

I think the adverts are scary... mainly because it seems to be the general opinion that some will believe them.
But this one is the one that really makes me angry:

YouTube - Confused Children TV Ad

At least the adults know what they are saying, and believe it. This is just exploiting kids... and I am surprised it is allowed, even in the US.

What a horrific exploitation of children. When they are older, this video will haunt them. Just think how guilty they'll feel that they helped in the oppression of millions of people.

 

[Mumei]

What a horrific exploitation of children. When they are older, this video will haunt them. Just think how guilty they'll feel that they helped in the oppression of millions of people.

While it is exploitative, those kids are adorable.

 

[Shemjaza]

What a horrific exploitation of children. When they are older, this video will haunt them. Just think how guilty they'll feel that they helped in the oppression of millions of people.

What I don't get is that people seem to think "four year olds are confused by this" is a reason it's wrong. Four year olds are confused by pretty much everything.

 

[KCKID]

While it is exploitative, those kids are adorable.

What is adorable about kids mouthing what adults have told them to say?

 

[cgcsb]

The traditional right wing "how do we explain to the children" weapon is effective among those that are easily led. They're going to have to explain to children the facts of life at some stage. Holding information back from them will just lead to them finding it out the hard way

 

[brightmorningstar]

To b&wpac4,

So, how does the California doctor have to choose between faith and job because of same sex marriage?

Same sex partnerships aren’t marriage are they? They certainly aren’t according to the Biblical testimony of God, but I thought prop 8 meant the state didn’t recognise them.

The rest of them are just insane. If they want to teach their children that homosexual marriage is bad, why don't they just do that? Schools are usually trying to teach tolerance and understanding.

there you go again, ‘homosexual marriage’ and teach their children suggest heterosexual marriage. Its rubbish, the storm is gathering.

 

[b&wpac4]

To b&wpac4,
Same sex partnerships aren’t marriage are they? They certainly aren’t according to the Biblical testimony of God, but I thought prop 8 meant the state didn’t recognise them.

there you go again, ‘homosexual marriage’ and teach their children suggest heterosexual marriage. Its rubbish, the storm is gathering.

Well, in Iowa same sex partnerships can now be marriage. Just because BMS says they aren't means absolutely nothing if they are granted the legal ability to marry by the state.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To B&wpac4,
well prop 8 was california wasn't it? and it was a californian doctor that was referred to. So

Just because BMS says they aren't means absolutely nothing if they are granted the legal ability to marry by the state.

Just because you say things in Iowa are different is irrelevant, it depends on what the actual situation is.

 

[b&wpac4]

To B&wpac4,
well prop 8 was california wasn't it? and it was a californian doctor that was referred to.

It still doesn't explain exactly how a doctor has to choose between job and faith.

 

[b&wpac4]

Just because you say things in Iowa are different is irrelevant, it depends on what the actual situation is.

If I think all Christian marriages are false, and should be void, does that change the reality of the situation that those people are married and have recognized rights granted by their government to them? No?
If you replace "Christian" with "same sex", it remains the same.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To B&wpac4,

It still doesn't explain exactly how a doctor has to choose between job and faith.

Is that hard to understand? Would an animal rights supporter wish to carry out animal experiments without any bother at all?

 

[b&wpac4]

To B&wpac4,
Is that hard to understand? Would an animal rights supporter wish to carry out animal experiments without any bother at all?

Would an animal rights supporter get a job where they may have to carry out animal experiments? If you are a fertility doctor, you may not have the right to discriminate under the law, because everybody has equal protection. That isn't choosing between faith and job, that's choosing between being a bigot and job.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To b&wpac4

If I think all Christian marriages are false, and should be void, does that change the reality of the situation that those people are married and have recognized rights granted by their government to them? No?

Exactly so its not what either of us say, but what the actual situation is according to the law of the state.

If you replace "Christian" with "same sex", it remains the same.

Really? a union of a man and a dog is a marriage if they think it is and the state recognises it.

 

[b&wpac4]

Really? a union of a man and a dog is a marriage if they think it is and the state recognises it.

I would say yes, it would then be a legal marriage.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To B&wpac4,

I would say yes, it would then be a legal marriage.

then we are in agreement
but thats why I follow God's purposes rather than mans