http://www.christianforums.com en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:12:13 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.christianforums.com/style/misc/rss.jpg http://www.christianforums.com http://www.christianforums.com/t7419290/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:38:53 GMT Biblically speaking, would it be a sin for 2 women who are both married to the same man to engage in sexual actions with one another? I mean in another thread I heard that homosexual sex is condemned because it is outside of marriage, and homosexuals cannot marry, so I wondered how this would... Biblically speaking, would it be a sin for 2 women who are both married to the same man to engage in sexual actions with one another?

I mean in another thread I heard that homosexual sex is condemned because it is outside of marriage, and homosexuals cannot marry, so I wondered how this would fall in place?

Genuinely curious to what people think? ]]> yasic http://www.christianforums.com/t7419290/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7419136/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:51:22 GMT they are using their religious book to target a group they dislike? Yes, no, AL your argument is all wrong! What do you think? they are using their religious book to target a group they dislike?

Yes, no, AL your argument is all wrong!

What do you think? ]]> Maren http://www.christianforums.com/t7419136/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7419041/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:04:59 GMT the Christian Bible is anti-Homosexual? Yes, no, AL your argument is all wrong! What do you think? the Christian Bible is anti-Homosexual?

Yes, no, AL your argument is all wrong!

What do you think? ]]> Autumnleaf http://www.christianforums.com/t7419041/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418978/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:08:47 GMT Is it moral or not? Is it moral or not? ]]> Autumnleaf http://www.christianforums.com/t7418978/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418975/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:00:18 GMT I got the idea from another thread, so I thought I'd run with it.

Suppose that homosexuality is a sin. What are the implications?

In lieu of a common definition, take 'a sin' to mean 'immoral'. That just shifts the issue, I suppose... but you get my drift.

If homosexuality were shown to be sinful/immoral/evil/etc, however you want to define it, what would that mean for society? Would we have to illegalise it? Would we allow it to continue regardless?

I'm tempted to say "Imagine if it was as immoral as paedophilia". ]]> Wiccan_Child http://www.christianforums.com/t7418975/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418938/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:44:37 GMT I posted this before: Genocide is an unfair word, since it has a racist/prejudice connotation. Let me ask you, did the U.S. commit genocide when scores of Japanese were killed in WWII? In the very technical definition of the word, yes. But was it for the reason that the word implies, like the... I posted this before:


Genocide is an unfair word, since it has a racist/prejudice connotation. Let me ask you, did the U.S. commit genocide when scores of Japanese were killed in WWII? In the very technical definition of the word, yes. But was it for the reason that the word implies, like the Nazi's did with the Jews? No.

The Bible says that the nations God ordered to be wiped out weren't killed merely because of how they were born or what they believe. Leviticus 18 says they were killed because they were doing things like commiting adultery, incest, beastiality, and sacrificing thier children.

God never ordered the destruction of nations for the racist or bigoted reasons that the word "genocide" implies. In fact, God would spare any one from those nations that turned from doing such destable acts; Rahab is one good example. If God was trully genocidal, He wouldn't spare anyone of whatever nation He wanted wiped out, for any reason. God punishes for wickedness, not because of how one was born or believes.

Peace. ]]> shinbits http://www.christianforums.com/t7418938/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418817/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:54:50 GMT 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 1 Cor. 14:33

Why is it that the Christians on this board continue to call God's word into question about everything? ]]> Zaac http://www.christianforums.com/t7418817/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418726/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:01:54 GMT I just recently found out I am gay. This is very distressing, to top it off I was also a e-furry. I enjoy looking at anthromorphic comics of various nature. More so lately I have been looking at gay furry comics. I am gay however I will not act on this due to my beliefs. If it ever became possible... I just recently found out I am gay. This is very distressing, to top it off I was also a e-furry. I enjoy looking at anthromorphic comics of various nature. More so lately I have been looking at gay furry comics. I am gay however I will not act on this due to my beliefs. If it ever became possible to cure this gene, would you accept said serum? Are they currently working on doing this because I would very much like to live a normal sin free life. So to summarize, if you were gay would you accept this revolutionary serum? Please go into detail as to why or why not. ]]> Awesomeguy http://www.christianforums.com/t7418726/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418578/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:29:43 GMT Nebraska 1875, Preamble[FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom . Establish this Constitution.. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Nevada 1864, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We the people of the State of Nevada , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, establish this Constitution.... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art . I. Sec. V[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']New Jersey 1844, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']New Mexico 1911, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty.. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']New York 1846, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of New York , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']North Carolina 1868, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']North Dakota 1889, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We , the people of North Dakota , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain..... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Ohio 1852, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We the people of the state of Ohio , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Oklahoma 1907, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I Section 2.[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance.... [/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'][/font]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Rhode Island 1842, Preamble.[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']South Carolina , 1778, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']South Dakota 1889, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of South Dakota , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties ... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Tennessee 1796, Art . XI..III.[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Texas 1845, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We the People of the Republic of Texas , acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Utah 1896, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Vermont 1777, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']Whereas all government ought to enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man .. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Washington 1889, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']West Virginia 1872, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God .. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Wisconsin 1848, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Wisconsin , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'][/font]
[FONT='Georgia','serif']Wyoming 1890, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Wyoming , grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties, establish this Constitution...[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'][/font]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif'][/font] ]]> LittleNipper http://www.christianforums.com/t7418578/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418576/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:27:20 GMT Alabama 1901, Preamble[FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
We the people of the State of Alabama , invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution.. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Alaska 1956, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Alaska , grateful to God and to those who founded our nation and pioneered this great land. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Arizona 1911, Preamble[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Arizona , grateful to Almighty God for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Arkansas 1874, Preamble[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Arkansas , grateful to Almighty God for the privilege of choosing our own form of government... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
California 1879, Preamble[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the People of the State of California , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom...[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Colorado 1876, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Colorado , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Connecticut 1818, Preamble.[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Delaware 1897, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Florida 1885, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Florida , grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Georgia 1777, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Georgia , relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution... [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Hawaii 1959, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We , the people of Hawaii , Grateful for Divine Guidance .... Establish this Constitution. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Idaho 1889, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Idaho , grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Illinois 1870, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil , political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Indiana 1851, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the People of the State of Indiana , grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to choose our form of government. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Iowa 1857, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the People of the St ate of Iowa , grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Kansas 1859, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Kansas , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges establish this Constitution. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Kentucky 1891, Preamble..[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the Commonwealth are grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties.. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Louisiana 1921, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Louisiana , grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Maine 1820, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We the People of Maine acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity .. And imploring His aid and direction. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Maryland 1776, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the state of Maryland , grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Massachusetts 1780, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We...the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts, the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe In the course of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Michigan 1908, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']... We, the people of the State of Michigan , grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom, establish this Constitution. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Minnesota, 1857, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings: [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Mississippi 1890, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work. [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Missouri 1845, Preamble[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Missouri , with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness . Establish this Constitution...[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
Montana 1889, Preamble.[/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']We, the people of Montana , grateful to Almighty God for the[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif'] [/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']blessings of liberty establish this Constitution ..[/font][FONT='Georgia','serif']
[/font] ]]> LittleNipper http://www.christianforums.com/t7418576/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418558/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:36:31 GMT It seems like diversity is an untried, or even possibly a harmful, way of setting up society. Old school of thought was that unity was more important. ie You come to America from wherever you want to but you better learn to speak like us and try to fit in. These days the opposite often seems to... It seems like diversity is an untried, or even possibly a harmful, way of setting up society.

Old school of thought was that unity was more important. ie You come to America from wherever you want to but you better learn to speak like us and try to fit in. These days the opposite often seems to be true and I don't know if we're better off as a society for it. What do you think? ]]> Autumnleaf http://www.christianforums.com/t7418558/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418551/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:26:28 GMT or the one?

Is Spock's logic sound? ]]> Autumnleaf http://www.christianforums.com/t7418551/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418096/ Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:23:56 GMT So, I am in the middle of a hypothetical debate, and the other person claims that Research XYZ shows that all male homosexuals want to rape men. He even gives me a full citation. Of course, I know this claim is bunk, but I want to see the source anyways. So I go searching, and find out the... So, I am in the middle of a hypothetical debate, and the other person claims that Research XYZ shows that all male homosexuals want to rape men. He even gives me a full citation. Of course, I know this claim is bunk, but I want to see the source anyways. So I go searching, and find out the source is not from NARTH, but some respectable journal. OK, then the other person likely didn't read some part correctly, so let me go read it. So I go to get the article and... nothing. It says I have to pay $30 dollars to download the article. So there is no way I can refute his claim. If I say he is lying, all he has to do is ask me if I read the article, and I have to say no. Reading the abstract isn't enough either.

So what can I do? Nothing.


So, is it ethical to use articles for papers or debates where the readers/other person will have to pay to get access to your source? For all intensive purposes, such an article does not exist to me. The source seems invalid unless you can provide a full text.

Or is the whole 'paying for knowledge' part of capitalism? ]]> lawtonfogle http://www.christianforums.com/t7418096/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418023/ Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:11:54 GMT For instance, a licensed medical doctor gets a DUI. The state he is licensed in can demand he quit drinking, randomly UA test, and if he does not they can take away his license to practice medicine, even if the DUI happened on his day off. What if the good doctor commits murder and does his time,... For instance, a licensed medical doctor gets a DUI. The state he is licensed in can demand he quit drinking, randomly UA test, and if he does not they can take away his license to practice medicine, even if the DUI happened on his day off. What if the good doctor commits murder and does his time, and the state does not find out about it until he does his time and is practicing medicine as a convicted felon? Should licensed professionals be subject to losing their licenses for other issues than their work performance? ]]> Autumnleaf http://www.christianforums.com/t7418023/ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418021/ Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:05:35 GMT It seems like in the US military there have been a couple cases of Muslims in the US Army shooting up or 'fragging' our own troops. A US General has said this is the price we pay for diversity, and he said its well worth it. What do you think? ]]> Autumnleaf http://www.christianforums.com/t7418021/