Christian Forums - Conservative Christians http://www.christianforums.com A forum for conservative Christians of all denominations. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:54:00 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.christianforums.com/style/misc/rss.jpg Christian Forums - Conservative Christians http://www.christianforums.com Wall Street virtual stock trade game http://www.christianforums.com/t7417400/ Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:27:19 GMT World is in financial crise, most of countries are in recession. For 2009, an estimated 9.6 million U.S. jobs were eliminated. In Russia only in december 2008 1.0 million jobs were eliminated. Learn how to survive and play virtual stock exchange trading with stocks and goods. Only the best... World is in financial crise, most of countries are in recession. For 2009, an estimated 9.6 million U.S. jobs were eliminated. In Russia only in december 2008 1.0 million jobs were eliminated. Learn how to survive and play virtual stock exchange trading with stocks and goods. Only the best wins!


stocks.en.st ]]> Conservative Christians zlekome http://www.christianforums.com/t7417400/ Israel vs. Palestine http://www.christianforums.com/t7416676/ Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:11:57 GMT I find that liberal Christians can inform me on the issues of compassion that I don't normally think of or understand. Sometimes compassion seems to cloud their thoughts, but from a standpoint of personal holiness I find this preferable to cold intellect. Being wise as serpents and gentle as doves is the art of living.

With that in mind, see Jim Wallis' "God's Politics" for a counter-perspective on the Palestinian conflict: blog.sojo.net/tag/palestine/ Please focus on the ones that point out injustice; while their solutions are worth reading, those are where I encounter the most ideological conflict with them.

Now, what should we do about the issue? If you agree with their solutions then bring them up, but there's no need to refute their arguments unless someone here takes them seriously. ]]> Conservative Christians Jesdisciple http://www.christianforums.com/t7416676/ Encoding Biblical Values in Law http://www.christianforums.com/t7416237/ Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:32:26 GMT I'm a defected Republican who remains conservative and, as a result, I'm questioning the conventional positions on several issues. So here's a biggie that I'm having trouble with: How do you justify insisting that all citizens follow Judeo-Christian values? How does this translate from a theocracy to a constitutional democracy? How does it not violate 1 Corinthians 5:12? ]]> Conservative Christians Jesdisciple http://www.christianforums.com/t7416237/ Bible group member declares Old Testament is not important http://www.christianforums.com/t7415507/ Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:15:53 GMT My wife and I lead a very small Bible study in our home every Wednesday evening. We have now met six times and it has gone fairly well, until this past Wednesday. One of the members declared that pastors he talked to and other people in the faith said that for new believers (he is a new believer)... My wife and I lead a very small Bible study in our home every Wednesday evening. We have now met six times and it has gone fairly well, until this past Wednesday.

One of the members declared that pastors he talked to and other people in the faith said that for new believers (he is a new believer) should skip the Old Testament and go straight to the NT. He followed up with saying that he agrees with this and that the OT is just full of who begat who and some "side stories". His wife, who is not saved yet attends because of her husband, agreed.

Well, I heard this and became dismayed at this. What pastor would tell someone that the OT is not important? Is this some new brand of Christianity that only involves half of the Bible?

I am praying right now for God to step in and change this person's heart.

The Old Testament is rich and full and far from being boring.

Has anyone faced this before in your group or with a friend or family member who rejects the OT because it is "too boring" or "not relevant"? ]]> Conservative Christians jfont75 http://www.christianforums.com/t7415507/ Dressing decently -- what does it mean to you? http://www.christianforums.com/t7415254/ Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:57:22 GMT Again, just for the sake of curiosity, I think it would be nice to collect some of the varying opinions about what modesty means, since people draw the line in so many different places on this issue. Please feel free to share your thoughts -- without debate, if possible. I may give my personal... Again, just for the sake of curiosity, I think it would be nice to collect some of the varying opinions about what modesty means, since people draw the line in so many different places on this issue.

Please feel free to share your thoughts -- without debate, if possible.

I may give my personal viewpoint at a later time. ]]> Conservative Christians WannaWitness http://www.christianforums.com/t7415254/ when someone defends increased govt power, what does one say? http://www.christianforums.com/t7413692/ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:35:15 GMT OK,

what if someone says that the government would do a better job of regulating something than a private business because they're not motivated by profit? I've been put on the spot somewhere and I don't know how to answer.

Me, the wimp, said something like this (and I'm certain that it is so off the mark):
Quote:
Profits equal revenues minus expenses, net of tax.

Revenues minus expenses in a govt standpoint is either a surplus or deficit. It's not like the govt doesn't have to watch out how it spends for what They may not call it a profit, but it's computed the same way a profit is, in a way.

I don't really care to be hostile or anything LOL. I just would appreciate that self-professed open-minded people would show the respect for different views that open-minded people are supposed to have
]]> Conservative Christians Lady Bug http://www.christianforums.com/t7413692/ Why are so many people okay with divorce? http://www.christianforums.com/t7412973/ Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:42:23 GMT I'm not talking about in cases of abuse, neglect, drugs, etc. I'm talking about in terms of the normal ups and downs of life and the stages of relationships/life.

I for one was ready for divorce a number of years ago before a group of friends forced me to talk about what was going on and helped me through some difficult things. Since then, I have heard more and more stories where friends did the opposite of mine and were okay with people getting divorced rather than encouraging them to work on it.

I have even heard of more and more pastors saying that a couple should consider divorce, even if they have never talked to a marriage counselor or gone to a marriage retreat.

Why are many Christians okay with divorce today? Are there such things as irreconcilable differences or are most things in relationships reconcilable differences that take people working on themselves rather than working on their spouses? How does a Christian justify divorce as an option? Is all divorce a sin? ]]> Conservative Christians caman http://www.christianforums.com/t7412973/ Why is conservative a dirty word? http://www.christianforums.com/t7412365/ Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:37:28 GMT Why are we Christians who believe the Bible to be the absolute truth of God considered bigots and racists for sharing the truths of the Word which we believe? Why are we Christians who believe the Bible to be the absolute truth of God considered bigots and racists for sharing the truths of the Word which we believe? ]]> Conservative Christians RoyWM http://www.christianforums.com/t7412365/ California anti-divorce bill and sanctity of marriage http://www.christianforums.com/t7412245/ Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:31:02 GMT Initiative Would Make it Illegal to Get Divorced in California - San Diego 6 (http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local/story/California-illegal-divorced-gay-marriage-voters/OW1j3ZWAIkqsM6ViLzI68g.cspx?rss=800) Basically, the pro-gay marriage people have launched an initiative to ban divorce, to make a... Initiative Would Make it Illegal to Get Divorced in California - San Diego 6

Basically, the pro-gay marriage people have launched an initiative to ban divorce, to make a point to the people who had gay marriage overturned. I am not a proponent of gay marriage, but it is a good point they make. Several years ago, when we had a Constitutional Amendment being argued for by "Defense of Marriage" people, I noticed that they're not defending Biblical marriage. It's fine to say that marriage is only between a man and a woman - Jesus said that, after all. But in that same teaching, he also taught against divorce (Matt. 19:3-9).

I find it sad that so many in the church are turning their backs on this teaching of Jesus, even as they loudly proclaim other commands. I'm probably going to want a divorce some days too whenever I get married (if that happens) and there are other areas I do fall plenty short in. But what I would love to see and what the world needs to see are good examples of traditional, Christian marriage. The culture of divorce has racked so many parents of people who are of marriageable age now, and many in my generation just don't see marriage as a life-long commitment, that divorce is inevitable. Personally, I know several guys around my age who were only married for two or three years. And two of those guys are Christians from Christian families.

Aren't we supposed to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world?

I'm not saying we should get behind this initiative, but I am saying that it makes a very good point to where we are at as the church. We need to return to what Jesus said about marriage and divorce, especially if we're going to be speaking out against homosexuality. We would do well to consider what Paul wrote to the Jews in Romans 2:23-24:

"You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? As it is written: 'God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.'" ]]> Conservative Christians twistedsketch http://www.christianforums.com/t7412245/