http://www.christianforums.com A forum for members that attend a church with a claim to apostolic succession. en Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:03:32 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.christianforums.com/style/misc/rss.jpg http://www.christianforums.com http://www.christianforums.com/t7419268/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:01:00 GMT Could someone help clarify here for me. I was looking at the decrees from Nicea and I noticed that it said after the creed:

"The catholic and apostolic church condemns those who say concerning the Son of God that 'there was a time when he was not' or 'he did not exist before he was begotten' or 'he came to be from nothing' or who claim that he is of another subsistence (hypostasis) or essence (ousia), or a creation (ktistos), or changeable (alloiōtos), or alterable (treptos)."

Now I was under the impression that the Fathers, councils, and nonmodalist Christian tradition taught that the Son is in fact a different subsistance, hypostasis, first substance etc. What is going on here? ]]> Apostolic Churches JJM http://www.christianforums.com/t7419268/