Christian Forums - Theologia Crucis - Lutherans http://www.christianforums.com The forum for ELCA, LCMS, WELS, ELC, Moravian and other similar churches. en Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:35:23 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.christianforums.com/style/misc/rss.jpg Christian Forums - Theologia Crucis - Lutherans http://www.christianforums.com Jesus he come to free all of us http://www.christianforums.com/t7419590/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:12:57 GMT Suomen ev lut kyrka 22.11.2009 ministerium verksamhet romans 8 ---Quote--- Jesus dog för alla de synder som skiljde människan från Gud. Han tog på sig själv straffet, konsekvensen för synden, han gick i döden – för att vi skulle kunna gå fria, och få komma tillbaka till den Gud som vi alla hör... Suomen ev lut kyrka 22.11.2009
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Jesus dog för alla de synder som skiljde människan från Gud. Han tog på sig själv straffet, konsekvensen för synden, han gick i döden – för att vi skulle kunna gå fria, och få komma tillbaka till den Gud som vi alla hör hemma hos.

Jesus hiis plan was to come to us s o we can live our livfe.he die to save us and free us.now we live i n his grace and not in the evil.

there are many liar i n the world.Jesus he die for the truth. ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Lokke http://www.christianforums.com/t7419590/ Anabaptists and puritans http://www.christianforums.com/t7419243/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:42:31 GMT Was wondering what the lutheran position today is on anabaptists and puritans. Im reading up on church history....so yeah.... Was wondering what the lutheran position today is on anabaptists and puritans. Im reading up on church history....so yeah.... ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans RMDY http://www.christianforums.com/t7419243/ What does a bishop do? http://www.christianforums.com/t7418982/ Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:35:13 GMT What is the role of a bishop within the Lutheran church? Is it similar to that of a Baptist elder? What is the role of a bishop within the Lutheran church? Is it similar to that of a Baptist elder? ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Lazerboy http://www.christianforums.com/t7418982/ <![CDATA[CORE group against ELCA's decision...]]> http://www.christianforums.com/t7418876/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:11:34 GMT Watertown Daily Times Online - News

what do you guys think of this?

Here's the website for CORE (not to be confused with the WELS CORE, in Appleton!!)

Lutheran CORE - Coalition for Renewal ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans PreachersWife2004 http://www.christianforums.com/t7418876/ So thought to tell you guys http://www.christianforums.com/t7418799/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:32:18 GMT Since the Lutheran area is where I spend most my time over here :thumbsup: my internet got shut off, I will be able to more actively participate in a week when we pay a certain bill :preach: Till then..it shall be a school computer thing :idea: Since the Lutheran area is where I spend most my time over here :thumbsup: my internet got shut off, I will be able to more actively participate in a week when we pay a certain bill :preach: Till then..it shall be a school computer thing :idea: ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Searching_for_Christ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418799/ The Sacraments http://www.christianforums.com/t7418482/ Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:28:37 GMT So I was wondering something. I go to a non-denominational bible Church and they (because I'm sacramental..took a lot of looking into Catholicism and Anglicanism to get me to settle on the Lutheran view) anyways, they believe its symbolic. Now is there a "phrase" that makes the communion well..right..uggg...I can't think of the darn word, I remember talking to another Lutheran (Missouri Synod) about this..whats it called when the priest speaks..and it does something...err..I bet you guys know what I'm talking about :p so is there a way for the Communion in a Church that believes it to be symbolic..well is it possible for them to do it wrong? Also is it wrong to participate in a Communion that is being treated as symbolic? (oh..I think I remember the words now..ehh.. the "words of institution" ? oh well) ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Searching_for_Christ http://www.christianforums.com/t7418482/ thanks to my friends http://www.christianforums.com/t7417848/ Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:57:28 GMT i will have give up if i do not have friends. thank you for your advice. Gud välsigne dig. :) i will have give up if i do not have friends.

thank you for your advice.


Gud välsigne dig. :) ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Lokke http://www.christianforums.com/t7417848/ Gave away my blessings and ,....... http://www.christianforums.com/t7417715/ Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:36:19 GMT disappear from CF. :wave: disappear from CF. :wave: ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans JimfromOhio http://www.christianforums.com/t7417715/ Accepting Christ http://www.christianforums.com/t7417670/ Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:07:45 GMT I have a question in regards to the traditional Lutheran belief in accepting Christ. Now I'm going to start by saying that Calvinism is damaging to me..my dad has recently this year became a Calvinist. Apparently a good book to buy as a Calvinist beginning to learn stuff is a book called "The Bondage of the Will" by Martin Luther :sigh: It was my understanding that Lutheranism was different from Calvinistic teachings of accepting Christ, and personal Choice, so what is the Lutheran stance exactly? ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Searching_for_Christ http://www.christianforums.com/t7417670/ Do you Lutherans...? http://www.christianforums.com/t7417503/ Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:33:57 GMT Hello, yesterday I was doing a small amount of reading from the Book of Concord, and as a result have a few questions to ask which I hope some here will be kind enough to answer.

Do you Lutherans really believe that water baptism is required for salvation? I thought Luther's life-changing discovery in the Bible was that the just shall live by faith. What about the thief on the cross? He wasn't baptized, but Jesus told him that he would be in paradise with Christ.

Do you Lutherans really make the sign of the cross? I thought only Catholics did that. Do you also do such things as venerate Mary and do the rosary?

Do you Lutherans really confess to a priest? My understanding is that we have but one advocate, Jesus Christ, and that we are to confess to God through Him.

What exactly is the Lutheran view of the Communion elements? You believe that Christ is present in and around the elements, but that they do not actually become the body and blood of Christ, is that it, or...?

Thank you, and I look forward to your responses.
]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Lazerboy http://www.christianforums.com/t7417503/ Decision Theology http://www.christianforums.com/t7415244/ Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:24:28 GMT I made a casual slip in a post the other day which made me realize that I’m still struggling with decision theology thoughts. I was very impressed with WildStrawberry’s tooth decay model, where keeping healthy teeth is not so much a product of choice as of good genetics, but rapid tooth decay is a product of bad choices. Yet I obviously still have some confusion as exemplified by my casual slip about salvation being a choice as well as damnation.

So, would it be true to say that, in Lutheran terms, having lack of repentance is a choice, but repentance is not a choice because repentance only comes through the Holy Spirit? If so then I am still confused because I still have the impression that at least some element of choice is involved in repentance. Is it correct to say that deciding to repent is not in fact a choice?

Note: I would have called this thread the opposite of decision theology, but I'm not aware of a succinct label for the Lutheran counter-point to decision theology. ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans LutheranMafia http://www.christianforums.com/t7415244/ New http://www.christianforums.com/t7414080/ Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:08:44 GMT Hiya a new Lutheran here, been reading up on ideals and stuff and all the good stuff and I have to say i like. Next step is finding a good church near me. Think I know of one so I'll get in contact with em and give it a go. ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans zach88 http://www.christianforums.com/t7414080/ 30 minutes from now--redux http://www.christianforums.com/t7414042/ Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:42:35 GMT For the amillenialists and others who bristle at either the thought of Christ returning for the faithful in a Rapture or in the thought that there would be any prior alert to the impending call home, I offer an alternative scenario. Consider that you have been given prior notice that _your_... For the amillenialists and others who bristle at either the thought of Christ returning for the faithful in a Rapture or in the thought that there would be any prior alert to the impending call home, I offer an alternative scenario. Consider that you have been given prior notice that your Pauline tent is about to collapse in the vein of Hezekiah or Pharoh's cup-bearer (whose head was lifted up), not his baker (whose head was lifted off.)

1. What would your emotional response be to the knowledge that you would be gazing upon the glorious face of Jesus Christ and spending eternity in the presence of Father God within 30 minutes.
2. What (if not yet stated) would you do with that time?

Peace. ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Dongus http://www.christianforums.com/t7414042/ How many here really accept the Athanasian Creed? http://www.christianforums.com/t7413874/ Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:33:13 GMT I visited an ELCA Church about 17 years ago and on that Sunday a visiting pastor chose the Athanasian Creed as creed of the day. However, when the time came to the section of the creed that professes eternal punishment, virtually the entire congregation became silent, leaving perhaps only 5% that... I visited an ELCA Church about 17 years ago and on that Sunday a visiting pastor chose the Athanasian Creed as creed of the day. However, when the time came to the section of the creed that professes eternal punishment, virtually the entire congregation became silent, leaving perhaps only 5% that were willing to recite said words. Such an experience led me to believe that only a very small percentage of ELCA Lutherans believe that Hell's torment is forever.

Regardless of your branch of Lutheranism, how many here personally believe in eternal punishment, as listed in the Anthanasian Creed? ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Basil the Great http://www.christianforums.com/t7413874/ Vatican warning regarding Halloween http://www.christianforums.com/t7413870/ Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:36:07 GMT The Vatican newspaper warned on Friday that Halloween is tied to occultism and is anti-Christian. Hence, should Christians avoid celebrating Halloween? The Vatican newspaper warned on Friday that Halloween is tied to occultism and is anti-Christian. Hence, should Christians avoid celebrating Halloween? ]]> Theologia Crucis - Lutherans Basil the Great http://www.christianforums.com/t7413870/