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How to discern what is God and what is not...

Posted 3rd October 2008 at 09:11 AM by Ariel

In the book of Acts, God gave direction to His disciples, and not just through Scripture. He also spoke directly into their hearts. For example, Ananias was told to go to the street called Straight and pray for Saul, Acts 9:11. Paul was told to go to Macedonia, Acts 16:9. I believe that God can speak to us today also, and direct our hearts.

But how do you discern whether something is from God, or from you, or from Satan?

There are several ways something from Satan can be discerned. First, judge it by its character. Satan is a liar and the author of lies, John 8:44. He causes confusion, James 3:15-16. He comes to kill, steal and destroy, John 10:10. Satan is pushy, always seeking a way to attack, 1 Peter 5:8-9. Be warned, Satan can quote Scripture, Matthew 4:1-19 and do miracles, Exodus 7:11. He cannot, however, imitate God's peace, James 3:17-18. If there is no peace, that is not God.

Also, Jesus said we could judge something by its fruit, Matt. 7:16. Always ask, "What is the fruit in me?" If something causes you to despair, or feel confused or cut off from God, then that is not a word from God.

Contrast this to God's character. God is love, 1 John 4:8. God's purpose, even in correction is always to restore, Gal. 6:1. The Lord NEVER condemns His children, Romans 8:1. Anyone who cries out to Jesus Christ is saved, Romans 10:13, and God promises that He will never leave them or forsake them, Hebrews 13:5.

Jesus Christ came so that we could have life and that abundantly, John 10:10. God is never pushy, He never violates our free will, Rev. 3:20. Moreover, any direction or counsel which is from God will ALWAYS line up with the Word of God, and will ALWAYS--no exceptions--come with peace, James 3:17-18.

If something is from the Lord, there will be a witness in your spirit, for the Holy Spirit is within you if you belong to Christ, Romans 8:9, and He affirms His counsel. On the other hand, if something is from Satan, there will be a disquiet, an edginess--again the Holy Spirit within you discerning something is wrong. Also, no demon can ever say that Jesus Christ is Lord, or that He has come in the flesh, 1 John 4:1-3; 1 Cor. 12:3. If (out loud) you command that spirit to tell you whether or not Jesus Christ is Lord and if He has come in the flesh, if that spirit is demonic, it will either leave immediately or deny the Lordship of Jesus Christ. On the other hand, if that spirit is the Holy Spirit, then He will affirm those two truths, and let you know also that He is pleased with you for testing the spirits, as He directs, 1 John 4:1.

What to do if something is demonic? Resist it. First make sure you are clean--confess all sin, 1 John 1:9. I also recommend asking God to cover you with the blood of Jesus and put a hedge of protection around you (Job 1:5,10 is an example of a hedge of protection because of sacrifice). Then use James 4:7-8 and tell that demon spirit to leave, in Jesus Christ's name. Do this out loud, because although demons can interject thoughts into your mind, I don't believe they can hear you think. Even quote this Scripture to it, something like, "You demon spirit that just said such-and-such, I resist you now in Jesus Christ's name, and I command you to leave. Scripture says, "resist the devil and he will flee from you." I am resisting you now, and in Jesus Christ's name I command you to GO!"
Then obey the last part of James 4:7-8--draw near to God. The quickest way to draw near to God I've found is to praise Him, Ps. 22:3, KJV, but reading or reciting Scripture is also effective.

When commanded to go in Jesus' name, demons have to flee. A born-again child of God has incredible authority in the Spirit. But we must use it. We are told to put on the armor of God, we are told to take up the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God, Eph. 6:10-18, and we are told to resist the devil and he will flee from us, James 4:7-8. This authority is ours, in Jesus Christ's name, but we must use it.

Recall that 1 Thessalonians 5:23 indicates that we are spirits, we have souls and we live in a body. If your spirit belongs to Christ, then God will speak into your spirit, and give you His deep counsel, Prov. 20:27. Most often this guidance will be a witness in your spirit, or a quickening of Scripture to you. It can be that "still small voice" Elijah heard in his heart, 1 Kings 19:12. It can also be a dream, a vison or even an audible voice.

There is a third source of guidance--our own soul. The soul is the mind, the will, and the emotions--any of these can be full of the "old man" Eph. 4 and Col. 3 talk about. How to discern what is from us and what is from the Lord? I think with time and experience this becomes much easier--look at Hebrews 5:14, where it talks about "those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." These are also those who are in the "meat" of God's Word.
Also, something I do when I need to hear from God and I do NOT want my soul to get in the way: I tell God about all my own thoughts or good ideas--and then I put all of that on the altar. I tell the Lord that I will do NONE of them, unless He directs me. Then I pray and wait. Sometimes He speaks to me immediately, other times I may hear Him through Scripture, my husband or another Christian, confirming something He wants me to do. Other times I just need to be patient and wait. He is so good. I have never known Him to not answer when I have cried out to Him and asked Him for direction.

Our God promises, "I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go, I will counsel you and guide you with My eye," Psalm 32:8. Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice," John 10:3, 16, 27. There is a condition, however--we must listen. Also, we must be willing to do as Scripture directs--to test the spirits, 1 John 4:1, and to resist anything that comes from our enemy, James 4:7-8.

One last thought. I was having trouble hearing God's voice, and I asked Him why. His answer changed me. He said that I was in the world a lot, listening to the world--television, newspapers, etc., and almost never in the Word, listening to Him. The Bible is God's Word to us. I felt that God instructed me to "fast" newspapers and TV for a while, and just read my Bible. Sure enough, reading the Word of God cleaned out my spiritual ears. When you listen to God's voice in the Word, you are hearing the voice of the Lord. It is so easy then to hear His voice in your heart as well--to bring Scripture to remembrance, to counsel you, to give you direction.

Our God is so good. Jesus said He would not leave us as orphans, but He would send the Holy Spirit to lead us and guide us into all truth, John 14:18; 16:13. He still speaks to us today, but we must listen.





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Yasha's Avatar
Did you write that? That is a great summation of the processes I, too, apply and have been learning over the years. Recently, in deeper conflicts, I have been resetting my defense and offense... battle has upped it's anty, stretching me. So, I find your summary here, both handy, in an almost cliffnotes format and worthy, as a great post.

Thanks. I am just falling over you recently, and am appreciating your understanding.

Good to 'meet' you.
Sha
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Posted 3rd October 2008 at 10:45 AM by Yasha Yasha is offline
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Yes, Sha, I wrote that. I wrote part of it yesterday when I was counseling someone on one of the threads in the Ministry area. Then I added to it this morning.

Thank you for your kind words. They mean a lot.
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Posted 3rd October 2008 at 11:04 AM by Ariel Ariel is offline
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Why does Ariel not share such things with daimonizomai? It feels jealous now she givesy treasure all around to spite it, arouse its envy? She teases it then hides from it... for what reason?
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Posted 3rd October 2008 at 12:46 PM by Moriah_Conquering_Wind Moriah_Conquering_Wind is offline
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I am here for you too, Moriah. You have only to ask.
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Posted 3rd October 2008 at 05:56 PM by Ariel Ariel is offline
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But how do you discern whether something is from God, or from you, or from Satan?

There are several ways something from Satan can be discerned. First, judge it by its character. Satan is a liar and the author of lies, John 8:44. He causes confusion, James 3:15-16. He comes to kill, steal and destroy, John 10:10. Satan is pushy, always seeking a way to attack, 1 Peter 5:8-9. Be warned, Satan can quote Scripture, Matthew 4:1-19 and do miracles, Exodus 7:11. He cannot, however, imitate God's peace, James 3:17-18. If there is no peace, that is not God.
But if you never feel peace, you would not know the difference. If you always have confusion, you would not know the difference. If everything you have encountered even Truth has caused you pain, death, loss, destruction, you would not know the difference. And God speaks in scripture and does miracles too.

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Also, Jesus said we could judge something by its fruit, Matt. 7:16. Always ask, "What is the fruit in me?" If something causes you to despair, or feel confused or cut off from God, then that is not a word from God.
Then being convicted of sin would not be from God because it causes all of these: despair, confusion, sense of being cut off. Of course if you always feel despairing and cut off no matter what, you would not know the difference.

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Contrast this to God's character. God is love, 1 John 4:8. God's purpose, even in correction is always to restore, Gal. 6:1. The Lord NEVER condemns His children, Romans 8:1. Anyone who cries out to Jesus Christ is saved, Romans 10:13, and God promises that He will never leave them or forsake them, Hebrews 13:5.
But if you never experience a sense of being restored, if you always feel condemned and forsaken and abandoned, what then?
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Posted 4th October 2008 at 12:55 AM by Moriah_Conquering_Wind Moriah_Conquering_Wind is offline
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You are asking some good questions, Moriah.

God loves you. He loves you. You don't deserve that love, and neither do I, but He loves us anyway. He never condemns, because condemnation says that there is no hope. Condemnation comes from Satan, the father of lies--not God.

God convicts. He lets us know that we are going the wrong way. But He never stops loving us, and He never tells us there is no hope.

There is always hope, as long as we are on this earth.

There is always one prayer that God will hear, no matter what we have done, and that is the cry for forgiveness. No matter how dark the place we are in, He hears.

Another prayer He always hears--the cry for Jesus Christ to save us. This is a powerful prayer. Recall that Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life. He is able to save, restore, heal, deliver and give us new life.

Going back to your questions--Moriah you say you have never had a sense of being restored. I am not sure where you are in your walk. Have you asked Jesus Christ to come into your heart, to forgive you of your sins, and to be your Lord and Savior?
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Posted 5th October 2008 at 07:43 AM by Ariel Ariel is offline
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Moriah_Conquering_Wind's Avatar
many times. doesn't matter though. if you bes judged as not really meaning it, as being insincere, you gets refused. and if you cannot save yourself and make yourself perfect you gets judged insincere.
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Posted 5th October 2008 at 10:46 PM by Moriah_Conquering_Wind Moriah_Conquering_Wind is offline
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Thank you for posting this. Its really insightful
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Posted 27th December 2008 at 01:14 AM by l0v3n l0v3n is offline
 
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