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    How do you politely turn away a Jehovah Witness at your door?

    I am glad you gave that testimony. I also knew a woman who was ten years a JW and received Jesus as Lord. With prayer God can have the same mercy on them as He had on us.
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    They are the "sheep" nations transferred from the time of the great tribulation into the millennium. (Matthew 25:34-40) I believe that they are also certian offspring of the "sheep" born during the millennium who do not partake of the last rebellion. (Rev. 20:8,9) The sons of God are to...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    Yes. There are saved nations living in the light of the New Jerusalem. That is not the main point. But it is a point. And let's examine sample renderings in English and the Greek. You quoted KIng James which I included among a few other translations. καὶ περιπατήσουσι τὰ ἔθνη διὰ τοῦ φωτὸς...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    He will do that and more. He will dispense the life of His Son into many sons so that He is "the Firstborn among many brothers" (Rom. 8:29) The King is set upon God's holy hill of Zion and also infused into all the members of His bride which is His Body. He is "the head over all...
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    How do you politely turn away a Jehovah Witness at your door?

    You clearly and boldly tell them up front in no uncertain terms that your God is the man Jesus Christ. If they continue to talk you simply ask them "Did you hear what I said?" And repeat it again boldly but with love - "I said my God is the man Jesus Christ." That is all you have to make...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    Thus says Jehovah, / Heaven is My throne, / And the earth the footstool for My feet. / Where then is the house that you will build for Me, / And where is the place of My rest? For all these things My hand has made, / And so all these things have come into being, declares Jehovah. / But to this...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    So the last great truth in the sixty-six books of the Bible for you is that the earth is God's footstool? You love so much Isaiah 66:1 so much that it governs everything else. It seems that "the earth is my footstool" should be the last sentence in the Bible. This is a touchy obsession which...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    If I recall when we previously talked about the millennial kinghdom and the eternal age of the new heaven and new earth, there were elements of this rational which necessitated that we Chrstians don't believe NT saints will reign with Christ on the earth. For reasons that I do not understand...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    We've conversed about this before. I remember pretty well. I would discuss it again. But you have to define exactly what you mean by these words: below above highest under over Otherwise if we do not come to an agreement as to how we are using these words we might be just talking past...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    There is no contradiction. Jude 24 is saying the same thing without the married couple language. The Apostle Paul was one with God. The apostle's heart is one with the heart of God. As we all should be. But we have the mind of Christ. ( 1 Cor. 2:16b) For we are not able to do...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    Don't shy away from what it says. For I am JEALOUS over you with a JEALOUSY OF GOD. . . . for I BETROTHED you to one HUSBAND to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. The word picture is unmistakably about a divine romantic jealousy, betroval of a wife to a husband...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    I will edit the colors for you on revision. Check the post again in a few minutes.
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    I see nothing in the list of points which makes the Bride and Wife of the Lamb not be the New Jerusalem according to Revelation. I see nothing in the additional points making the church not the wife to Christ according to Ephesians. Arguing over the location of the redeemed doesn't effect the...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    I would like to contribute two songs. Enjoy and sing along with me. One on the church being the New Man from Ephesians 4. The other song is on the Lord washing and sanctifying His body the wife from Ephesians 5.
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    I created this thread before the October attack not since it. Of course bad things have happened to Israel and the Jewish people from long ago. Isn't it also related to the marriage dinner of the Lamb and His bridal army descending with Him in the battle of Armegeddon? And I heard...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    That was the shortage of those who didn't see this or at least never told you. You are still on your journey into truth, as I. Don't repeat thier neglect. Good, because our destination is with the New Jerusalem - the bride. (I'll return to Ephesians in a moment). And I saw the holy...
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/824
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    Bored with the church enamored with Israel

    Marilyn C, you can't be serious. Please tell me you're not being serious. You must be "tongue in cheek" playing around. I have a hard time believing you actually are so serious as to say the church only has the aspect of a man in "one new man." You should know good and well that God's...
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    Why Do Atheists Engage in Discussions with Christians?

    I'm opened to see how. I am aware. People saved by Christ are intended to be living stones built up together into "a dwelling place of God in spirit." In whom all the building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord; In whom you also are being built together into a...
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    Why Do Atheists Engage in Discussions with Christians?

    Is this the equality that you are concerned is un-Christian? For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. (Gal. 3:26)