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The difference being that in many of those workplaces, specialised equipment, team lifting and the like are the norm. I'm just pointing out that "heavy lifting" isn't limited to male-dominated industries. Of course, that's not really prevention. They've rolled screening for abuse into the...

Not rationalised away. But saying that taking one piece of a puzzle and claiming it's the whole picture is misleading at best and dishonest at worst. No. Not at all what I am saying. Actually, there are women working for more women to be in construction and the like. I've even linked you...

I see them as completely irrelevant. They don't say anything about our obligation (or lack thereof) with regards to environmental stewardship today. Well, repentance and humility would probably include repenting of exploiting the earth to a damaging degree, and having the humility to see that...

No, because I was treating this as a more general discussion. I dislike threads that are about nothing more than criticising others. Edit: having now done so, it's not even a church. It's an accreditation programme for environmental stewardship, for churches. On that basis I have no issue...

Well, I was commenting on care for the environment more generally. "EcoChurch" isn't a name I'd choose, personally, but I'm disinclined to descend into hyperventilating about it, either. And yeah, I think there is an obligation to personally, at least consider, these things. I wouldn't be...

Only if we ignore all the other ministries of the church. Churches, after all, run schools, hospitals, food banks, counselling services and all manner of other things; nobody says that because we run a school, we see everything through the lens of education as a priority; or that because we run...

But this is the beauty of the rich variety that is the church!

I agree. In a way, I am arguing against emphasising one narrow aspect to the exclusion of everything else.

I think it is more than wisdom; care for the creation is an act of worship of the Creator. More broadly in response to recent comments in the thread, I find the idea that anything other than a very narrow idea of sharing the gospel, is somehow a diversion from what we should be doing as the...

It's interesting that in Mark's version, they're told to "proclaim the good news to the whole creation" (Mark 16:15, emphasis mine). However, nobody is saying there is no interpersonal dimension to mission. Simply that mission is more than two verses of Matthew's gospel.

Most institutions don't use quotas for their workforces (just before anyone gets carried away, here). If anything, I would see quotas as an attempt to correct for gender-based hierarchy and rigid roles, so I wouldn't agree that the use of quotas is cultivating abuse, either. Well, first up...

Given that it is the good news of the kingdom, I disagree. I disagree that the great commission is the only thing that we are told to do in mission.

Proclaiming the good news is done in word and deed. The kingdom - the reign of God - extends beyond humans and over all of creation. I would argue that stewardship of creation is a proclamation of the reign of God even over the created world and its fragile webs of life.

There's clear overlap, for sure. But I would say that what God wants us to do is a little broader than two verses in Matthew's gospel. Or to put that another way, we need to take all of Scripture into account in articulating our understanding of mission.

In that case, Surprised by Hope is probably your best starting point.

I think it's a mistake to reduce mission to any one thing, rather than seeing that it is multi-stranded. The Anglican church globally has set out five "marks of mission" which are, together, a summary statement of what we believe God calls us to do in the world. Both proclaiming the good...

I think, Riley, it might depend on why you're interested in him in the first place. Was there something in particular that drew you to ask?

Not cancelled out, but part of a much more complex picture. A premise I wouldn't even seriously entertain. For example: Academic Leadership by Gender https://www.science.org/content/article/gender-pay-gap-hits-university-faculty Which are readily ignored when it suits employers. It reflects...

Since I am not clear exactly which link you're referring to, or which point I was making with it, all I would say is that while I understand the arguments for quotas in general they are not a mechanism I would choose. I'm not going to chase that red herring off topic, but I don't really agree...

I tried the first couple of times and got fobbed off. Haven't bothered after that. Things like "women don't belong in science," "it's not appropriate for a young woman to do this job," that sort of thing. I had to think about that one. I've called the police on occasion. Most of the time I...