It doesn't make sense to act like Fox News is untrustworthy

discombobulated1 · May 6, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
If it were true, I would've thought at least one of his court cases would've been successful.

Ah, well, in that case, color me convinced.

that last answer is quite indicative of the fact that you yourself are not likely to check out the information I have. How, because you use sarcasm instead of saying "I think I will check out that information, those books, etc you speak of"

Oh well. You aren't the first devoted-to-Ds-no-matter-what-they-do person I've met

discombobulated1 · May 6, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
If it were true, I would've thought at least one of his court cases would've been successful.

ha ha... too funny. You actually believe our judicial system is full of..

what, saints? All jurors are saints, all judges???

Trump is obviously not a saint, that you know... but boy, those JUDGES, every one of them is!

ha ha... I can't stop laughing

Two "words"

OJ

as in Simpson (laughter ceases)

iluvatar5150 · May 6, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
How, because you use sarcasm and instead of saying "I think I will check out that information, those books, etc you speak of"

What makes you think I haven't already seen most of what you believe you know?

discombobulated1 said:
that last answer is quite indicative of the fact that you yourself are not likely to check out the information I have.

This may come as a surprise to you, but you're not the first TrumpFan -or the first far-right conservative- to come through here, believing to have the keys to some Oracle of Truth to which the rest of us have yet to be granted access, and seeing this wisdom as license to brigade the board and proclaim yourself more knowledgeable than the rest.

It happens maybe every 6 months or so, and IME, folks usually flame out after a month or two.

I've yet to see you write anything that suggests you're in possession of any more interesting information or ideas than your predecessors. In fact, on a few issues (e.g. Dominion v Fox), it appears that you were quite uninformed prior to visiting us (despite having read so many books). Why should I assume that you've got something I'd find illuminating?

discombobulated1 · May 6, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
What makes you think I haven't already seen most of what you believe you know?

This may come as a surprise to you, but you're not the first TrumpFan -or the first far-right conservative- to come through here, believing to have the keys to some Oracle of Truth to which the rest of us have yet to be granted access, and seeing this wisdom as license to brigade the board and proclaim yourself more knowledgeable than the rest.

It happens maybe every 6 months or so, and IME, folks usually flame out after a month or two.

I've yet to see you write anything that suggests you're in possession of any more interesting information or ideas than your predecessors. In fact, on a few issues (e.g. Dominion v Fox), it appears that you were quite uninformed prior to visiting us (despite having read so many books). Why should I assume that you've got something I'd find illuminating?

I don't like talking to people who feel some strange psychological need to put the other person down, every other sentence

iluvatar5150 · May 6, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
I don't like talking to people who feel some strange psychological need to put the other person down, every other sentence

I suppose "devoted-to-Ds-no-matter-what-they-do person" was a term of endearment?

Akita Suggagaki · May 6, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
small government
wants to cut waste, fraud and abuse in same
wants to protect ALL humans even helpless babies in the womb
does not want lawlessness like what we see @ the border

Small but big enough to cover the common good.
Cutting waste needs to be done with great care. But I am in with it.
Protect all humans, yes, especially the most vulnerable and that includes refugees as well as life in the womb.
No one has a solution for the border, even Donald. A wall is a waist.

But I think you left out a few: gun rights, death penalty, ban books, deregulation of corporations, and restrictions on labor unions, Christian prayer in public schools, restrict welfare, drill, drill, drill, oppose LBGT rights & same sex unions, exclude homosexuals from military service.

discombobulated1 · May 6, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
I suppose "devoted-to-Ds-no-matter-what-they-do person" was a term of endearment?

I must have hit a nerve.

In any case, something like 99% of Ds I've encountered over the years are indeed like that So if truth gets to you

hmmmm.. telling

discombobulated1 · May 6, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
Small but big enough to cover the common good.
Cutting waste needs to be done with great care. But I am in with it.
Protect all humans, yes, especially the most vulnerable and that includes refugees as well as life in the womb.
No one has a solution for the border, even Donald. A wall is a waist.

Refugees?

Right... more like people who have NO respect for another country and break the law to get in

Would YOU do that?

If you lived on the border of .. say, France, would you break in against their laws and expect them to take care of your every physical need?

If you wouldn't do that, why is it OK for others to do it?

iluvatar5150 · May 6, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
I must have hit a nerve.

just the one in my funny bone

Akita Suggagaki · May 6, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
Refugees?

Right... more like people who have NO respect for another country and break the law to get in

Would YOU do that?

If you lived on the border of .. say, France, would you break in against their laws and expect them to take care of your every physical need?

If you wouldn't do that, why is it OK for others to do it?

You cannot fathom their desperation.

discombobulated1 · May 7, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
You cannot fathom their desperation.

you cannot answer a question.

Akita Suggagaki · May 10, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
Would YOU do that?

If you lived on the border of .. say, France, would you break in against their laws and expect them to take care of your every physical need?

If you wouldn't do that, why is it OK for others to do it?

You rig the question.
If I were that desperate I would try to get in and deal with the legality afterward.
But I would have no expectation of every physical need being cared for.

Adam56 · May 10, 2024

AlexB23 said:
Well, I am all for immigration, as long as the immigrants are vetted, productive members of our society, and pay taxes.

Do you believe discrimination against Muslim countries for the safety of our country is acceptable?

AlexB23 · May 10, 2024

Adam56 said:
Do you believe discrimination against Muslim countries for the safety of our country is acceptable?

I believe all countries should be vetted equally, and strictly before entering our country, regardless of religion.

Halbhh · May 10, 2024

discombobulated1 said:
Fox interviews and has guests who are from all walks of life and all kinds of professions. They always have a lot of ATTORNEYs on

So yeh, are you
Fox haters saying those people all lie just for Fox?

I mean, get real

I do like to get real, and I hope you do too, so here's a very real comparison that's easy to look at in just 30 seconds of all the major news media:

Allsides media bias chart on this page in the middle:

AllSides Media Bias Chart

The AllSides Media Bias Chart is an easy way for you to identify political bias in the news so you can be better equipped to navigate our increasingly polarized media landscape.

www.allsides.com

I like to read widely and have read most of the media on this chart (I could find 4 I've never read anything from the 5 columns, and it was 2 to the left and 2 to the right actually.

)

Adam56 · May 10, 2024

AlexB23 said:
I believe all countries should be vetted equally, and strictly before entering our country, regardless of religion.

1. Did you mean immigrants and not countries?

2. Why? What benefit does that serve US? Immigration isn’t a right, so shouldn’t we be choosing from areas with lower crime rates and less risk of terrorists?

AlexB23 · May 10, 2024

Adam56 said:
1. Did you mean immigrants and not countries?

2. Why? What benefit does that serve US? Immigration isn’t a right, so shouldn’t we be choosing from areas with lower crime rates and less risk of terrorists?

Immigrants from countries. Anyways, I have more important stuff to get to, such as analyzing a parable.

Adam56 · May 10, 2024

AlexB23 said:
Immigrants from countries. Anyways, I have more important stuff to get to, such as analyzing a parable.

Nice dodge. DEI in immigration isn’t a biblical concept. Don’t let the SJWs fool you.

Postvieww · May 11, 2024

Arcangl86 said:
There are literally internal emails from Fox News showing that they have intentionally pushed coverage on things they didn't believe were actually true.

CNN and MSNBC do that every day!

Postvieww · May 11, 2024

AlexB23 said:
Well, why should we trust a billionaire who lies and judges others? The Bible says it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle compared to a rich man.

Luke 18:25: "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"

Why should we trust many politicians who go into office of average means and leave multi-millionaires?

The verse in Luke doest not make it an impossibility but riches can be a huge distraction from God. The eye of the needle is a narrow gateway in Jerusalem difficult for a camel who is heavily loaded to pass through.

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