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So are you agreeing with what I said? Or are you disagreeing?

No. The death penalty was instituted LONG BEFORE the Law. Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

That mother in England should get what the Bible "advises" she gets as well.

And the only way we can know is to pray or not?

Then why are we told to pray for others?

It sounds to me like you're the one faulting God for everything. So God thought this whole thing up ahead of time -- including the Fall. Put it on some kind of cosmic video tape. Wound that tape up around a spindle. And now He's playing it out on screen?

Okay. We can skip Klebold & Harris if you want to. I have a whole genre of shooters we can pick from. But I'm sure you'll say the same thing. So let's talk about inanimate objects. Does your predeterminism cover those as well? For example, did God push down that "lifesaving" Florida...

He didn't. Did Klebold & Harris shoot up Columbine as marionettes?

I know of one. Eliphaz. Job 4:12 Now a thing was secretly brought to me, and mine ear received a little thereof. 13 In thoughts from the visions of the night, when deep sleep falleth on men, 14 Fear came upon me, and trembling, which made all my bones to shake. 15 Then a spirit passed...

Interesting. Have you been on the Art Bell or George Noory program?

I have a thread on this: Biomimicry

Maybe we don't like science, which runs on fallibility by replacing one wrong theory with another wrong theory and calls it "progress" -- maybe we don't like them telling us the Bible is wrong. You can, on principle, call your own craft "fallible" if you want to. But don't project your...

At least he's got one. What's your excuse? As was science's interpretation of our solar system for 76 years. Anyone -- anyone -- who would have dared say Pluto wasn't a planet during those years, would have been "corrected". How stunned were you, when your cohort said this: Stephen...

Let's set the record straight on this, shall we? Here are our virtues: 1 Corinthians 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. But you'll argue down anyone -- (such as myself) -- who exhibits faith, won't you? Even to the point of putting...

Makes me wonder what you talked about.

Yup. I did too. LOL -- ya, he had a certain "charm" about him. Very cordial to talk to. And a nice sense of humor. Here's one of our exchanges that made me chuckle. Ask a physicist anything.

WOW! Musta been a doosey of a debate. Wiccan Child was a Mensan, if I remember correctly. (Or close to one.) Did you see the exchanges between Thaumaturgy and Glenn Morton (RIP) here on the subject of AGW?

I totally agree. One has to go. And guess which one? (Hint: read my caption.) Correct. One is logical. The other is theological. (That is, theo-logical.)

Whenever I see the word "quantum" in a title, I know it's going to be a long OP.

On what grounds?